Could floyd beat hagler at 160

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  • GRboxing
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    #91
    Originally posted by lfc19titles
    this is a man who retired to avoid losing to welters during his prime, he came bck when they were over the hill and battle worn, he then ducked his biggest challenger like the plague

    this is a man who ws visibly afraid of margarito

    just have a look at this video, mayweather talks tash aabout margo nd then realises he is behind him lmao and shizzles himself





    a man who has ducked a prime kostya, mosley, cotto, margo, pacman and williams, he ducked them because he thought he would lose, floyd could not beat hagler at 160, hell everyone of the fab 4 would have knocked floyd out, if floyd fought the best fighters (he admits in the video he will not face the best) he would have had losses, so he retired or paid them step aside money to duck them
    Scared of Margarito lol Margarito didn't have one good win when that video was made. Who the hell was Margarito to beg for a fight?

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      #92
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
      Don't be ******, and no that's exactly what it'll be a mismatch, Floyd can stand within mid to long range against southpaws like Ortiz who bounce around predictably, he can comfortably stand within mid to long range against Guerrero who is slow footed, but how exactly does that work against Hagler who's fast on his feet, relentless, arguably the greatest chin, how the hell does Mayweather fend off one of the strongest MWs ever? Maybe you don't realize what your talking about, and it's called being a realist by the way.
      Exactly. Were talking about a Top 5 ATG middleweight here. Hagler would tear Andre Ward apart let alone a welter weight Floyd.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Still Burner
        Exactly. Were talking about a Top 5 ATG middleweight here. Hagler would tear Andre Ward apart let alone a welter weight Floyd.
        I see you just had to include "welter weight" Floyd. LOL

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          #94
          Originally posted by Still Burner
          Exactly. Were talking about a Top 5 ATG middleweight here. Hagler would tear Andre Ward apart let alone a welter weight Floyd.
          Face to face I doubt these peeps would come off this ******, doubt it man. Leonard, bigger, more athletically gifted, more fire power, Leonard himself struggled to keep Hagler off of him but Floyd can compete right? The same guy known for messing up his hands....against Hagler of all people, right....

          It's ridiculous man.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
            Don't be ******, and no that's exactly what it'll be a mismatch, Floyd can stand within mid to long range against southpaws like Ortiz who bounce around predictably, he can comfortably stand within mid to long range against Guerrero who is slow footed, but how exactly does that work against Hagler who's fast on his feet, relentless, arguably the greatest chin, how the hell does Mayweather fend off one of the strongest MWs ever? Maybe you don't realize what your talking about, and it's called being a realist by the way.
            Whats real is that groupies can't give credit away from Floyd without some sort of caveat like "floyds only a welter weight" or hagler was "HUGE"

            you cant fully admit hagler may just have been better regardless of size and fought WAY better opponents to help prove it.

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              #96
              Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
              Whats real is that groupies can't give credit away from Floyd without some sort of caveat like "floyds only a welter weight" or hagler was "HUGE"

              you cant fully admit hagler may just have been better regardless of size and fought WAY better opponents to help prove it.
              Floyd is a career lightweight/junior lightweight.

              Hagler was a career middleweight and could have moved to light heavyweight if he wanted it.

              These aren't caveats these are facts.

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                #97
                Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
                Whats real is that groupies can't give credit away from Floyd without some sort of caveat like "floyds only a welter weight" or hagler was "HUGE"

                you cant fully admit hagler may just have been better regardless of size and fought WAY better opponents to help prove it.
                How would you classify Floyd, that is the consensus too, and the man walks around closer to the 147 mark than any other WW out there. That seems to rub you the wrong way for some odd reason.

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                  #98
                  It'll be easier to imagine after we see what he does in the Canelo fight

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by hrt3333
                    It'll be easier to imagine after we see what he does in the Canelo fight
                    How on earth will the Alvarez fight give us any insight as to how Floyd would do against HAGLER?

                    Canelo wouldn't last two rounds with Marvin.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                      How would you classify Floyd, that is the consensus too, and the man walks around closer to the 147 mark than any other WW out there. That seems to rub you the wrong way for some odd reason.

                      He is a champ in both the jmw and ww divisions. Take that however you want. Doesnt really matter what he walks around at because he has fought bigger men in higher divisions before.

                      If he can fight big dudes at 154 that should not be "forgotten"--especially when the isht just happened.

                      Is Floyd smaller? absolutely...but youse are overplaying that hand.

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