The importance of being Undefeated

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  • MAKING_MONEY
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    #21
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    I respected Mares' undefeated record because he faced the best of the best, that's excluding Top Rank for obvious reasons. Before Gonzalez ended him, it was Agbeko twice, Perez (He won IMO), Darchinyan and Moreno, crazy line up. Andre Ward is another fighter worth mentioning. Same goes for Floyd currently, Mayweather has fought the best available opposition and after Canelo he's likely to face the Garcia-Matthysse winner. I don't really care for undefeated records, it does help promote fights but it's all about the level of opposition faced.
    True Floyd always fight the best available. Now cats saying Guerrero a bum? He was bigger than money on fight night and he a 4 division champ
    Who was money supposed to fight? Bradley Lara Alexander? They aint better or bigger than Guerrero homie. Guerrero a p4p and future hof .. Lara is hype he would've been easy work

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    • MAKING_MONEY
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      #22
      Cats saying money should of fought Williams cotto or margacheto instead of baldomir. Y'all crazy baldomir a lineal champ he the best at the time. Money only fight the best

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      • soul_survivor
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        #23
        Originally posted by Jc8804
        Roy jones faught a prime. Toney, hopkins,griffin and
        Tarver. And beat a heavyweight champ .
        Thats not padded
        Key word in my sentence was 90s, he beat a primed Toney and kinda green Hopkins, good wins both, apart from that what did he do? Beat Griffin? lol when Eubank, Benn, Colins, Nunn, Dariusz were all available. Correct me if I'm wrong but Daruisz beat Hill...then Jones fought Hill lol

        Listen I'm a huge Jones fan and he was one of my faves growing up but noway he remains undefeated if he takes at least a couple of those fights during the 90s.

        It's weird how post prime Jones actually started to take more risks.

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        • itsafight
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          #24
          It definitely gives fighters a psychological edge. But I agree too much emphasis is placed on being undefeated.

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          • Lords
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            #25
            their is no importance of being undefeated. having a loss on your record doesn't eliminate greatness from someone. how a fighter can except a defeat and manage to climb the ladder back to greatness, is superb to being undefeated.
            Last edited by Lords; 08-26-2013, 05:07 PM.

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            • itsafight
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              #26
              Originally posted by MAKING_MONEY
              True Floyd always fight the best available. Now cats saying Guerrero a bum? He was bigger than money on fight night and he a 4 division champ
              Who was money supposed to fight? Bradley Lara Alexander? They aint better or bigger than Guerrero homie. Guerrero a p4p and future hof .. Lara is hype he would've been easy work
              He ducked Pacquiao and still doesn't want to face him despite him being brutally KO'd.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #27
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Key word in my sentence was 90s, he beat a primed Toney and kinda green Hopkins, good wins both, apart from that what did he do? Beat Griffin? lol when Eubank, Benn, Colins, Nunn, Dariusz were all available. Correct me if I'm wrong but Daruisz beat Hill...then Jones fought Hill lol

                Listen I'm a huge Jones fan and he was one of my faves growing up but noway he remains undefeated if he takes at least a couple of those fights during the 90s.

                It's weird how post prime Jones actually started to take more risks.
                Roy cleaned out 175, except for Darius Whogivesa****zewski. And that fight didn't happen because of both sides. Not much else he can do.

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                • MAKING_MONEY
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by itsafight
                  He ducked Pacquiao and still doesn't want to face him despite him being brutally KO'd.
                  why would he fight someone who been losing? may only fight fights coming off impressive wins.

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                  • itsafight
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MAKING_MONEY
                    why would he fight someone who been losing? may only fight fights coming off impressive wins.
                    then why didn't he want him after he decimated Cotto and Hatton? He said he fights for money? Then why not face Pac who brings more money to the table than anyone bar possibly Canelo.

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                    • MAKING_MONEY
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by itsafight
                      then why didn't he want him after he decimated Cotto and Hatton? He said he fights for money? Then why not face Pac who brings more money to the table than anyone bar possibly Canelo.
                      Hatton was undefeated and a lineal champ
                      Cotto had just beaten an undefeated Foreman and Margacheato he was in rejunivated and prime again

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