How would you rate this HW era?

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  • Weltschmerz
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    #61
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    Old Foreman gave prime Evander a fight and knocked out fighters multiple levels better than almost everyone at heavyweight today. James Toney beat better fighters than most the division today when he moved to heavyweight.
    You're really kidding yourself buddy. James Toney was never a great heavyweight. He was just a smaller man who became fat and lazy.

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    • Weltschmerz
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      #62
      'Giving Holyfield a fight' doesn't mean Foreman would beat all HW's of today. Silly line of reasoning, to say the least.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #63
        Originally posted by Weltschmerz
        You're really kidding yourself buddy. James Toney was never a great heavyweight. He was just a smaller man who became fat and lazy.
        I never said Toney was a great heavyweight. He wasn't, not even close.

        Yet he was winning against heavyweights better than the crap today. What does that say about today's heavyweight division?

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        • bojangles1987
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          #64
          Originally posted by Weltschmerz
          'Giving Holyfield a fight' doesn't mean Foreman would beat all HW's of today. Silly line of reasoning, to say the least.
          So, do you exclusively debate by exaggerating what people said and leaving out key parts of their posts? I made it clear that old Foreman would not beat Wlad, and I don't know what Vitali has left so that's a question. He could and probably would beat everyone else though. Giving Holyfield a fight is better than most these average or worse fighters would do, and old Foreman has actual wins I can point to that are better fighters than most today.

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          • Joe Grizzley
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            #65
            Current HW era is the absolute worst in history.

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            • Joeyzagz
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              #66
              Only the 50's and early 80s was worse than this era.

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              • Jam Jars
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                #67
                Kubrat Pulev top HW and doesn't know how to throw a 3 punch combination.

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                • Cutthroat
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                  #68
                  It's ****ing terrible, the only people that'll defend it are Klitschko nut huggers, guys that always try to pump up these nobodies as if they're great fighters.

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                  • New England
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                    #69
                    D+


                    wladimir and vitali are legit, but they can't fight each other.

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #70
                      its obvious in this thread that alot of posters have no idea about boxing except for a few years,,,

                      the 50's was dreadful,,, or how about the era of jack dempesy when dempsey would never defend vs a negro... or how about the jack johnson era,,,, those were horrible eras for different reasons,, mainly racism,,,

                      At least today everyone has a fair shake,,
                      Some of you should do some reading before you spout off that this is the worst era ever,,, boxing has a deep history,, learn it

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