Ike Williams or Floyd Mayweather: Who Rates Higher?

[GRboxing]

agreed...thats why its hard to compare era's. Mayweather is one of the rare modern fighters that would have had no trouble in same day weigh-ins because of his discipline year round

So you think on same day weigh ins that Castillo and Corrales would've fared well against Jack, Williams, etc?

[therealpugilist]

So you think on same day weigh ins that Castillo and Corrales would've fared well against Jack, Williams, etc?

Corrales started at junior lightweight, came back from a hiatus and moved back 130. Castillo started his career as a featherweight and fought there for 8 years at the begining of his career....both filled out at lightweight.

If they are not drained as hell trying to do the same day weigh in at their best...both could have fared well in that era. Both are huge like williams for the weight 5'8" and taller....have underrated skills and had very good power.

Castillo was a slow starter but had great stamina and I think he would have benefitted fighting in the 15 round era considering it took him 3-5 rounds to get in his groove which is why Corrales fought him in the pocket and tried to make him fight fast....Also Castillo had a granite chin, great body puncher and IMO would over power Jack with left hooks and uppercuts on the inside.

Montgomery was a fast athletic guy wasnt a slick boxer and could be hurt. Both guys would have fared well in any era at lightweight IMO although neither may be considered top 10 all time lightweights. Its a testiment to the depth of the weight class.

[edgarg]

Good question,,,, Probably be better in the history section because alot of NSB posters probably have no clue who ike was,,,,

i think ike has better resume,, but honestly think floyd is the better h2h...

Ike fought alot of great fighters, and floyd has been kinda selective in opposition..

But you know how i hate comparing guys from the old school to the modern guys just because the game has changed so much....

ike def has a better resume, but i voted for floyd because i think he is a better all around fighter and will ultimately rank higher just because he was the face of boxing for his era and ike was not...

very good thread though,, im curious how iron dan and poet will say

That's an error that many people make because the other major sports have changed. But the experts are almost unanimous in declaring that the "game" has hardly changed at all. Perhaps the money, media, TV, promotions etc but the actual boxing styles of today could be duplicated by many of 90-100 years ago years ago. And they were a lot tougher, and some could hardly be equalled for expertise today. Much has actually been lost in boxing.

I've read numerous comparisons by expert and historians and so I'm not just stating my own opinion. I know it's hard for most of those who post in on this site to believe or accept, but there are some I know, who know what it's all about.

[GRboxing]

That's an error that many people make because the other major sports have changed. But the experts are almost unanimous in declaring that the "game" has hardly changed at all. Perhaps the money, media, TV, promotions etc but the actual boxing styles of today could be duplicated by many of 90-100 years ago years ago. And they were a lot tougher, and some could hardly be equalled for expertise today. Much has actually been lost in boxing.

I've read numerous comparisons by expert and historians and so I'm not just stating my own opinion. I know it's hard for most of those who post in on this site to believe or accept, but there are some I know, who know what it's all about.

I can agree with that. Even though Mayweather is technically brilliant. Very brilliant, actually.

[GRboxing]

Good question,,,, Probably be better in the history section because alot of NSB posters probably have no clue who ike was,,,,

i think ike has better resume,, but honestly think floyd is the better h2h...

Ike fought alot of great fighters, and floyd has been kinda selective in opposition..

But you know how i hate comparing guys from the old school to the modern guys just because the game has changed so much....

ike def has a better resume, but i voted for floyd because i think he is a better all around fighter and will ultimately rank higher just because he was the face of boxing for his era and ike was not...

very good thread though,, im curious how iron dan and poet will say

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