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  • #61
    Originally posted by Kingjames6 View Post
    Lol exactly. Watch the excuses come pouring in as soon as swift beats matthysse and watch how many will jump ship as soon as lucas gets that ass beat. Matthyse is wild as **** swinging and missing hooks leading to falling on the canvas. Danny gonna counter his **** all night.

    I agree 100%. Dudes have man-crushes on Lucas and cannot see how open he is for a nice counter. If they think Garcia is Peterson, they are in for a nice surprise. Garcia can take a shot and has pop in both hands.


    Garcia said it best: "If I fought the guys he fought, I would have crazy knock outs too..."

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Kingjames6 View Post
      Fought two top guys and lost. Beats PEDerson and all of a sudden he's a boogeyman. Peterson was scared to death to fight lol. Swift gonna ice this fool.

      Have you noticed that the fans of today get crazy hyped over a KO. They jump on and off wagons like hookers getting that bread. The bandwagon boys are reppin Lucas hard in this thread.

      "Oh he is p4p #1"

      Dude gets knocked out

      "Oh, he was never that good"

      It's comedy.

      Swift is a notch or 2 above Lucas in terms of skills. Lucas MAY have the edge in power but power alone is not going to get it done against Garcia.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by FerFal'sStepDad View Post
        Jumping in like this against Danny "Clockwork" Garcia's timing, can get a you KTFO.

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        Did Danny KO Nate "Past It" Campbell or even Kendall "No Hope" Holt?

        People are hilarious. You can't just look at a guy, freeze frame a shot, and automatically conclude that Fighter B will counter him in that situation. Lucas sets up his punches, which allows him to be a bit wild from time to time. He doesn't just swing wildly throughout all of his fights like some of you guys try to make the casuals on here believe.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
          Did Danny KO Nate "Past It" Campbell or even Kendall "No Hope" Holt?

          People are hilarious. You can't just look at a guy, freeze frame a shot, and automatically conclude that Fighter B will counter him in that situation. Lucas sets up his punches, which allows him to be a bit wild from time to time. He doesn't just swing wildly throughout all of his fights like some of you guys try to make the casuals on here believe.
          Oh OK. There is a method behind it... I see now.

          He baits his opponents into landing flush on him, so that he can counter. Cool.

          Did Lucas KO hyped up Alexander or PAST IT Judah? Nah... He did however KO some cabbies, Mike WHO Dallas and Off my PEDS Peterson.

          ****in resume!

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          • #65
            Can we just go back to the days of Manny being unbeatable... It just feels weird now that his bandwagon is empty and nobody is talking about Manny as the GOAT in 2013. It seems like years ago when he was referred to as a god.


            These crickets are loud as hell!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by FerFal'sStepDad View Post
              Oh OK. There is a method behind it... I see now.

              He baits his opponents into landing flush on him, so that he can counter. Cool.

              Did Lucas KO hyped up Alexander or PAST IT Judah? Nah... He did however KO some cabbies, Mike WHO Dallas and Off my PEDS Peterson.

              ****in resume!
              Judah did take advantage of that situation, but I was referring to the moment where he fell down in the Peterson fight, as well as the first KD where Peterson was clipped on the forehead. People use that as a reference point to claim Danny would counter him there. No, Lucas set that shot up beautifully.

              Hyped up Alexander? Really? And your Judah reference is just... silly. Illogical even, lol. (Khan KO'd Judah, Danny KO'd Khan, but didn't KO Judah, in fact was hurt in the late stages of the fight.)

              Mike Dallas is far from a bum, but that only proves further your lack of knowledge of the sport and you clearly only follow your favorite fighters.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
                  Judah did take advantage of that situation, but I was referring to the moment where he fell down in the Peterson fight, as well as the first KD where Peterson was clipped on the forehead. People use that as a reference point to claim Danny would counter him there. No, Lucas set that shot up beautifully.

                  Hyped up Alexander? Really? And your Judah reference is just... silly. Illogical even, lol. (Khan KO'd Judah, Danny KO'd Khan, but didn't KO Judah, in fact was hurt in the late stages of the fight.)

                  Mike Dallas is far from a bum, but that only proves further your lack of knowledge of the sport and you clearly only follow your favorite fighters.

                  So you think Judah is prime?

                  And you seriously wanna tell me that Alexander is anything but a better than average 140 pounder? What on his resume tells you he was more than what he was?

                  Mike Dallas has no real resume other than being ****** out like a clown by Matthysse.

                  Khan KO'd Judah but Neither Matthysse nor Garcia did. Does that mean Khan beats Matthysse?

                  You are being tricky about how you detract from Garcia's wins and so I show you how easy it is for me to the same with Matthysse.

                  Truth is Dallas was NOT all that and Peterson?? Come on man.

                  Everybody wants to pretend they are boxing scholars but when you assume too much...

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JDezi4 View Post
                    I like how People picking the betting favorite to win are just fanboys, but the best argument Garcia fans can come up with is that he lost to 2 fighters that have nothing in common with Garcia, both of which were arguable hometown decisions
                    Lucas will get clipped by a counter left hook sometime during the first three rounds while attempting a right hand to the body.....Lucas might recover but he'll go back down before the fight is stopped around round 9....is that thorough enough my man?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by FerFal'sStepDad View Post
                      So you think Judah is prime?

                      And you seriously wanna tell me that Alexander is anything but a better than average 140 pounder? What on his resume tells you he was more than what he was?

                      Mike Dallas has no real resume other than being ****** out like a clown by Matthysse.

                      Khan KO'd Judah but Neither Matthysse nor Garcia did. Does that mean Khan beats Matthysse?

                      You are being tricky about how you detract from Garcia's wins and so I show you how easy it is for me to the same with Matthysse.

                      Truth is Dallas was NOT all that and Peterson?? Come on man.

                      Everybody wants to pretend they are boxing scholars but when you assume too much...
                      Yes, Devon Alexander is a great talented young fighter. I don't enjoy watching him fight, but his style and skillset could give anyone at 140-147lbs problems. I feel most people here would agree with my thoughts on this.

                      Mike Dallas has just as decorated an amateur career as Danny Garcia does, #1. His professional career hasn't been spectacular, but most aren't ready to write him off so quickly as you are. His father passed away right before the Matthysse fight. Not making excuses but it is something to consider.

                      Peterson is still regarded as one of the best in the division, beat Holt, Khan, and had a tough fight with Victor Ortiz, who despite what NSB will tell you, actually isn't a terrible fighter, not even close to it. And most people feel Peterson won that fight

                      None of this is relevant to my original point. I never tried comparing each fighters resumes to presume on that alone who is the better fighter.

                      You don't even need to do that for this fight, it's an easy style matchup prediction. Lucas is your typical boxer-puncher, ala Miguel Cotto except with more non-wasted movement, feints, and two-fisted power. Garcia is more of a flat-footed, poor-mans Marquez, except he doesn't have JMM's explosive combinations during his counter opportunities. He likes to load up on single shots, hoping that his opponents head is where he thinks it is.

                      Garcia also doesn't set up his offense nearly as well as Matthysse does, and Garcia also leaves himself open routinely for straight right hands.

                      Ric-Dic made an ignorant point earlier, claiming that because Morales is more technical than Matthysse, Lucas can't possible take advantage of any possible openings that Danny gives him. Pro tip: Lucas has fasters hands than Danny, #1. and #2, Mike Dallas has faster hands than Danny, and Lucas timed his jab perfectly, a punch Danny doesn't throw nearly as well or as fast.

                      I've yet to see a Garcia fan truely break down this fight, and not resort to regurgitating the same old "His timing will KO Lucas" nonsense. Boxing isn't binary. You can't sit and rely on countering your opponent, you need to keep them honest as well with offensive tempo, an area where Lucas will be the one catching Danny wide open.

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