Comments Thread For: Hearn: Barker-Golovkin Would Require Huge Money

[HeroBando]

Ward will fight him in his next fight without hesitation.

Who the fcuk are you, Ward's manager? He wanted to fight Truax or Sartison as tuneup, and you think he wants GGG next? GTFO

[chiguy91]

No one is running away from Golovkin and no one is scared of him. Golovkin has proven nothing thus far other than the fact that he can beat a bunch of journeymen. Martinez is not running. Quillin is not running. Stevens is not running. And Barker is not running. His promoter said he is going to fight his mandatory, which he must do to keep the belt he just won. He also wants to make as much money as he can for his fighter, which is the goal of every promoter, including Golovkin's. If Golovkin wants a fight against one of the best fighters in the world, all he has to do is move up eight pounds. Ward will fight him in his next fight without hesitation. However, Golovkin himself said it will be two to three years before he is ready to move up to face Ward. Yet, he is willing to go 154 now to face Mayweather or Alvarez. That tells me a lot about who is afraid of who.

I remember when all the amateur boxing experts on this message board were claiming that Margarito was feared by every welterweight in the world, including Mayweather. Then Paul William kicked his ass and Mosley KO'd him. All of a sudden, the only person who was afraid of him was Mayweather, who didn't fight him while he was retired for 2.5 years. Golovkin is no different. He will be exposed as soon as he steps in the ring with a quality opponent.

You and others should stop riding Golovkin's nuts as if he is the greatest thing since sliced bread because he hasn't proven anything thus far fighting stiffs, has beens and never was's.

best post in the thread. golovkin's such an entertaining fighter, he's truly great for boxing, but some of the fans he attracts are truly ******ed.

It's easy to get impatient with the current situation at MW. Once Barker has beaten Sturm, then we can start setting expectations for Barker/GGG. Let's just hope that Sturm doesn't get the W or else we'll have to wait MUCH longer. If Sturm had fought GGG when he was supposed to, the MW division would probably look a lot different. GGG would've probably fought Macklin/Murray/Geale already.

exactly. things unfortunately didn't work out that way, now we have golovkin/stevens and barker/sturm on the horizon. like someone pointed out earlier in this thread, hbo televised geale/barker for a reason. we just have to wait and see what comes out of this.

[kiaba360]

best post in the thread. golovkin's such an entertaining fighter, he's truly great for boxing, but some of the fans he attracts are truly ******ed.



exactly. things unfortunately didn't work out that way, now we have golovkin/stevens and barker/sturm on the horizon. like someone pointed out earlier in this thread, hbo televised geale/barker for a reason. we just have to wait and see what comes out of this.

Hearns is behaving like any promoter would. Look at how Duva held out to get more money for Stevens, it's simply their duty to their fighter. Let's just be glad that 3G/Stevens is actually signed and that the match-up is fan friendly. Hopefully Stevens lives up to his trash-talk and comes to fight.

[Mayweather41-0]

man Barker had a good fight against Geale but imo GGG is just on another level I dont see any middleweight right now who can handle his power.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Offering everybody peanuts and saying they ducked him when they want more.

Really, what was offered to murray, serg, barker, quillen,,

do you have any evidence, to support your claims that GGG camp offered them "peanuts"

Stevens is lucky to get the 300k or whatever it was,,, its easily his biggest payday,,, so what makes you think ggg is offering peanuts

[chiguy91]

Hearns is behaving like any promoter would. Look at how Duva held out to get more money for Stevens, it's simply their duty to their fighter. Let's just be glad that 3G/Stevens is actually signed and that the match-up is fan friendly. Hopefully Stevens lives up to his trash-talk and comes to fight.

exactly, we should at least be grateful that someone like GGG is an actual world champion with a title around his waist and being showcased on HBO.

look at matthysse, another hard hitting favorite in the sport right now. his situation was way worse. he was robbed of actually holding a world title in his last fight while having the same promoter. not to mention his upcoming fight that seemed like it would never happen. being an interim champ while the regular champ fought a month before you and again shares the same promoter.

golovkin is not martinez's, quillin's, or barker's mandatory, nor shares the same promoter as them. that's obviously not an excuse to not have those fights made, but it just means that it's going to be a bit more difficult to actually make them. like you said, promoters are there to make their client's the most money they can. golovkin is obviously the top fighter in the division (no. 1 unofficially since most believe he'd beat martinez) so fighters are obviously going to want to get paid to step in the ring with him.

hopefully K2 and HBO can eventually get these other top MWs in the ring with golovkin. i truly believe it will happen eventually. like someone said before, HBO showcased geale/barker for a reason. if barker and murray want to get showcased on american television (specifically HBO), they ought to know they're going to try and make a golovkin fight with them. they're all prizefighters at the end of the day. they fight for money.

[DoktorSleepless]

That is the annoying part, some people are not directly saying no to fighting Golovkin (some definitely are though) , instead they are asking for paydays which are clearly above themselves as fighters as an excuse for delaying or milking there titles for as long as possible.

We haven't even heard any specific numbers from Hearn so you can't really say that about Barker. And Barker is in a situation where everyone wants him so he's allowed to ask for a decent payday. HBO wants him for Golovkin. Showtime wants him for Quillin. German TV wants him for Sturm. British TV wants him for Murray. This should bid up Barker's asking price greatly. It's not like he's undeserving. And I know Barker is up fighting the best if it's his best economical option. He fought Martinez when nobody wanted to fight him. And he was this close to finalizing a Pirog fight when nobody wanted to fight him before getting injured.

As for Geale, how the hell am I going to call him a ducker for fighting Mundine over Golovkin? Freaken old man Mosley is getting 1.5 million to fight Mundine in Australia. Geale with his belt probably got just as much, if not more. I doubt HBO offered anywhere near 7 figures to fight Golovkin. I don't think Geale was afraid either. Geale was also going to fight Pirog, who was in a somewhat similar high risk/low reward situation, before he got the call and bigger paycheck from Sturm. These fighters are following the money, and I'm not going to insult them for that when I'd do the same.

If Quillin or Martinez don't fight Golovkin who can he fight? Guys like Murray, Barker, Geale are all fights which are reputation builders for GGG, meanwhile each of them get a shot at his belts but none of them seem even remotely interested in a damn title shot.

The promoters don't even have faith in there own god damn fighters, it's so damn pathetic. Step up and face the best in your division, stop using Sturm to milk money. By your standards Golovkin can't face anyone except Martinez or Quillin because everyone else is a "miss-match".

Golovkin had his US debut as the a-side on freaken HBO without ever fighting anyone of note. Most other fighers (with exceptions of course) have to build themselves for years and years in the US before getting on premium cable. Am I suppose to feel sorry for him? He has it good. He's only been on the American scene for less than a year and he already got the chance to fight two top 10 middleweights and has been on HBO 3 times. He's on an accelerated pace by most standards. People are absolutely exaggerating Golovkin's misfortune. The bigger fights will eventually come like they do most fighters as they build their name. It doesn't matter that he's fighting a bum Stevenson next. The fight will raise his stock, and HBO will be more willing to spend for a better quality opponent in his next fight. That's how the big fights happen. The risk to fight Golovkin will eventually match the reward for other fighters.

By your standards Golovkin can't face anyone except Martinez or Quillin because everyone else is a "miss-match".[

I didn't say he can't. I said I wouldn't care if they didn't happen.

[CraigM]

Bit insane to have your first fight as a new title holder against one of the best in the world unless its for serious money...

You just gotta think about feeding your family first.

[wja1966]

Barker dont fight GGG hes all wrong for you.

I would love to see barker murray with murray just edging it

[Weebler I]

Crazy how scared the middleweight division is of GGG. Showtime ain't scared though.

Showtime's a fringe contender with no options.

If the Sturm fight fills a good sized venue and gets good ratings on UK TV then they'll keep Barker here fighting guys from the lower half of the top 10 at best for as long as possible.

No.

Sturm is No.4. They'll be open to fighting Murray and Geale (#3) and if Chavez (#5) wants it he can probably get it too given the payday he'll bring.

Well obviously. Why shouldn't the top MW's get paid big bucks to unify? Fckung hell Hearn is in this to make money not to make Barker an ATG and Barker has big money options domestically.

All of us here are fight fans and not managers for a reason

Pretty much.

Offering everybody peanuts and saying they ducked him when they want more.

^^^

Peanuts? First of all the offer is given by HBO, not by Golovkin. Macklin just got paid $300K in a fight where golovkin got $350K. and it looks like stevens got 300K + as well.

$300k in the UK is only £191k, pre-tax. It's really not that much to be taking one of the best fighters in the sport. Hearn isn't blind, he says Gennady is one of the best.

This is Darren fcuking Barker we're talking about, am i the only one who saw the 400 person crowd on saturday that they fought in front of? This is getting ridiculous, huge money? That fight would not draw a big crowd anywhere. HBO probably offered more money then anyone else (which was probably very little) and made it happen in the US.

Barker would and will draw thousands back home. Geale drew 10,000 in his last fight in Australia. I have no idea why that fight took place in the US.

Bit insane to have your first fight as a new title holder against one of the best in the world unless its for serious money...

You just gotta think about feeding your family first.

This. It's about time HBO started to put their faith in Golovkin as a future star and paid his opponents accordingly. If Stevens is getting $350k, a marketable champion in Barker should be getting at least twice that.