Which boxers do you think are or have been on PEDs?

[Homervanderjazz]

Having watched a re-run of the last manny JMM fight I couldn't help notice how much bigger he was than previous fights and how he was able to KO manny when he had not done so in their previous encounters.

Then I started thinking how manny had himself dodged testing in the past. Plus the Peterson fiasco...

On top of which arguably the greatest boxer in the division, Floyd,always does testing but seems to lack any real power...

So I wanted to ask which other boxers do you guys suspect of juicing? And does a boxer need to juice to have any real power in the lower weight divisions?

[tomatocantender]

I suspected Holyfield of juicing for Tyson I and II. Something about his heart condition after the Bowe fights and then his traps and shoulders were touching his ears (no pun intended, Evander) versus Mike. Dude's biceps, traps, and wingspan were unreal in those fights even though Evander was already carved like a T-day turkey beforehand.

I suspected Manny of maybe not outright juicing, but probably being on EPO or something similar from the DLH fight to Hatton. I think Manny may have stopped around the Cotto joint or Margs.

And then of course I think JMM was definitely on PEDs, maybe HGH stacked with some other things, for this last Pacq fight. I'm sorry but drinking your own piss doesn't give you those fricking shoulders...damn dude 's back and shoulders were jacked up like a middle weight.

[supremelygifted]

I suspected Holyfield of juicing for Tyson I and II. Something about his heart condition after the Bowe fights and then his traps and shoulders were touching his ears (no pun intended, Evander) versus Mike. Dude's biceps, traps, and wingspan were unreal in those fights even though Evander was already carved like a T-day turkey beforehand.

I suspected Manny of maybe not outright juicing, but probably being on EPO or something similar from the DLH fight to Hatton. I think Manny may have stopped around the Cotto joint or Margs.

And then of course I think JMM was definitely on PEDs, maybe HGH stacked with some other things, for this last Pacq fight. I'm sorry but drinking your own piss doesn't give you those fricking shoulders...damn dude 's back and shoulders were jacked up like a middle weight.

I agree with you on Holyfield. I believe he's been juicing all of his career as an heavyweight. He actually trained with Lee Haney. He credits Lee with getting him up in weight from Light Heavy to Heavyweight. We all know how juiced those bodybuilders were back in those days.

[Da Machine]

Probably Danny Garcia.

[miniq]

Pac probaly got slipped some stuff in Ariza shakes (Then after all the drug claims Roach and Pac probaly both got su****ious and starting asking Alex some questions)

Floyd was either cycling some sht or just was scared of Pac.. take your pick.

Berto, PEDerson, Marquez... (such a shame for Marquez



I think alot of boxers go to these guys who are effectively drug dealers and they sort them out without actually ever having to verbally indicate that they want something that they can get past tests with...

Peterson sham was the worst since this F8ggatron looked it up and devised the plan himself.. then outright lied to the public making up ****** stories.

[daggum]

floyd obviously

retires and comes back much bigger
many people in his gym have been busted for ped's
obsession with steroids playing on his mind(guilty conscience)
refuses to be tested year round
only does usada and makes sure they only test for certain peds and not others wtf? also positive tests are only released to the promoter what's the point?
won't fight pac now that pac is using vada
and he allegedly tested positive multiple times already

even with his roids he won't fight the best. waste of space.

[miniq]

These guys need to start eating more iguana...

[tomatocantender]

I agree with you on Holyfield. I believe he's been juicing all of his career as an heavyweight. He actually trained with Lee Haney. He credits Lee with getting him up in weight from Light Heavy to Heavyweight. We all know how juiced those bodybuilders were back in those days.

Thanks for the 411 on Lee Haney and Evander, did not know that. That would kind of explain some of Evander's fights like the first Moorer clash and the Toney fight where Evander looked like he hit the proverbial brick wall...which anyone that has ever juiced can tell you that when you peak out, it's a spiral downhill where you get weaker almost literally on the bench press doing reps. And then you have to get creative with a new stacking regiment or you just lay off that ish for a year plus. I just remember saying how is this the same guy against Toney looking weak in the clinches compared to the dude that bullied the bully in Tyson 1 especially in that 9th and 10th round. Like a darn juiced up thoroughbred running the Kent Derby.

[taansend]

Been a fight fan for 40 years but am pretty ignorant of all the PED stuff. I know it's rampant now but I can't really tell other than Marquez.

Have been a fan since the 90's and the way his body changed at aged 29 is unreal.

Not convinced either way about Pacquiao. I've been to the Philippines & worked with a load & the diet is not one to bulk you up. The fact that he rose up in weight after his move to training Stateside & improved diet & background team may have had a lot to do with it.

On the other hand there is that smug Ariza fella.

Again, I don't know enough about PEDs to make an informed guess.

Andy Ruiz Jnr maybe???

[Check_hooks]

Pacquiao is the only fighter that has gone to court and won against accusations. He won millions. He wouldn't of gone to court if he was dirty.

I don't even think Floyd is using because its a fact that hes on that ****.



And Thomas Hauser aka the most legit boxing reporter already wrote a paper about how he failed 3 tests in a row and they covered that up

Marquez hiring Memo and looking like the Rock is all the proof I need.