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im gonna sound stanish but the last three rounds in tarver-jones 1 were pretty good. toney in the final round(jirov fight), on hbo's card needed a knockdown and delievered.
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I looked the fight up but couldn't fight any footage in my usual spots. Anybody? Sounds like a hell of a fight.Comment
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Matthew Saad Muhammad was the KING of come from behind wins.
Dude was in danger of being stopped against Marvin Johnson in their second bout and came back with a big time KO.
**** all I remember of MSM is him beng hurt a lot and coming back to win. Yaqui Lopez was dominating their second fight, battering MSM around the ring with big rights and lefts. Matt comes back and drops him 3 times or so and knocks him out in the 14th. He must have been the most exciting fighter for his time. I'm mad I've only seen a couple of his fights when I was a lot younger.
BTW if anyone has good footage of miracle matt hit me up with em. I dont have points anymore but im cool like that so yeah.Comment
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i always feel so bad for big john.. i have an article about him right after he died. It says kids would come up to him and fall on the ground to make fun of him after this fight..Comment
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If I remember correctly, the 8th round of Muhammad/Lopez (II?) is insane. Both guys take turns landing monster shots through the entire round.
I second the pick of Toney dropping Jirov with less than 30 seconds left in the fight.
Emmanuel Steward was going crazy: "Jirov is hurt! Jirov is hurt! Oh my God!"
I also have to mention Gatti's legendary comeback vs Rodriguez. It was the stuff of legends. Gatti had been dropped; he'd lost a point for low blows; his eyes were almost completely closed, and he storms back to KO Rodriguez with a highlight reel left hook that left Larry Merchant saying "People will never forget this fight. It will be shown over and over and over again."
Chavez over Taylor was also insane. Before the final round, Chavez's corner man tells him "You are more than he is." Halfway through the round, Jim Lampley mentions "Right now it just doesn't look like Chavez has the stuff to get it done." The seconds pass, Chavez staggers Taylor, the crowd roars, and then Chavez unloads a right that demolishes Taylor, and the crowd almost blows the HBO microphones.
Foreman/Moore is another classic. The commentators have basically conceded Big George's defeat. Merchant mentions "The Legend of Foreman's power." Then Foreman lowers the boom out of nowhere.
*Close but no cigar clutch awards in losing efforts*
BTW, I didn't score the fights, but honorable mention to Gatti winning the 10th round in Gatti/Ward 1 after being battered all across the ring in round 9. Also honorable mention to Holyfield dropping Bowe in Bowe/Holyfield 3 after Foreman was demanding the referee to stop the fight earlier.Comment
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Yeah, Tate went through quite the rough patch after the loss to Weaver. Apparently he hit the bottle pretty heavily afterwards and it has been said that he became quite addicted to drugs, as well...Originally posted by darrenshyrockford
The big guy never seemed to have it easy it seems, especially having to win the WBA title in such harsh conditions in South Africa in front of 80,000+ who believed so strongly in their country's political outlook of white supremacy and resentment of blacks...I was reading a fight report of that Tate/Coetzee fight some time ago, and apparently Tate's walk to ring wasn't without incident, as he had to deal with a number of threats & attempts of physical violence. And after Tate gave Coetzee a pretty one-sided beating (in what was described as a "ferocious downpour" of rain, no less), the fans rioted in the stadium (mostly the many whites attacking the few blacks in attendance) and one young fan supposedly lost his life during it all.Comment
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Jesus..... what year was this John? I'm hoping I can find some footage of that. Oh yeah, and when is that book of yours coming out?Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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TATE-WEAVER WAS 1979. ALSO...
YOU SAY: I second the pick of Toney dropping Jirov with less than 30 seconds left in the fight.
Emmanuel Steward was going crazy: "Jirov is hurt! Jirov is hurt! Oh my God!"
ICE SAYS: I was at the fight, sitting three rows from the ring at eye level, sitting with Chris Byrd and his wife. In the 12th when JT dropped Jirov I was standing on the chair, punching Chris in the arm, yelling "he's gonna stop him!!!!" LOLComment
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That fight was incredible. How any fight that year was better is beyond me. I'm not sure which it was, but I really can't imagine any fight being better than Toney-Jirov was.Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
Looking it up, it seems that honor went to Gatti-Ward III, which was in no way near the level of Toney-Jirov. I'd much rather watch the two TOP guys in their division go at it like Toney and Jirov did, than two guys like Gatti and Ward (much respect to both of those guys, but in terms of skill, they're not in the same ****ing game as Toney and Jirov, and by that I mean the progression of ballpark, to league, to game).Comment
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The best quote from that fight was of course a Manny Steward quote, but I think it was, "HE BETTER DO A JULIO CESAR AND RUN ACROSS THE RING RIGHT AWAY!!!" That had me rollin...
It was also funny when he was all, "look at this...look at this. he got him with the left hook...and there it is again...and again..."Comment
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