Lennox Don't Do It

[Pno]

I cant be the only one that saw and was appalled by their behavior! Asking the CHAMP for a rematch is one thing...what Vitali and Wlad did in Lennox's corner was something else all together!

Just try for once to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

you are someone that has wanted this fight for a LONNNGGG TIME!!
someone who isn't a stranger to holding a belt.
but somone that has dreamt of fighting big HWs like Tyson & Lewis for quite a while..
you get in there, have the fight of your life, seeing your dreams right in front of you.. as they quickly get yanked due to a cut above your eye.
in all the pandimonium, knowing the fight due between you and this champ was in by no means over,
that the chance to prove yourself better than that champ was ended prematurely at best..
a rematch in no way was guranteed you
would you try and ask him on the spot?
would it be in a calm mannor?

granted 2 dudes up in your face isn't quite fair, if it was that serious of a threat, some manager or security would have acted ..

VK had the right to want a rematch or to at least ask it under the circumstances..

[Moon]

I lost what little respect for them I had when they ganged up on Lewis cause the doc. stopped the fight ..I keep seeing Vitali (looking like he was gonna cry or something!) nudging Lewis on the arm OVER AND OVER..running that mouth, and I kept thinking "Lennox knock him on his ass already and shut him up"!

But, he has a history. Within seconds of Sanders KO's his little brother, Vitali was in Sanders' corner mouthing off. The guy is a no-class to wander around in the ring, not giving the victor a few seconds to savour things.

Against Lennox, it was amateur night again.

[gustang1969]

well i thought vitali could have taken lewis if the fight had gone the distance you know and hey the crowd loved vitali but hey lewis was out of shape the night and stuff you know really who knows how the fight would have ended so why not have a rematch

[Neuraxis]

But, he has a history. Within seconds of Sanders KO's his little brother, Vitali was in Sanders' corner mouthing off. The guy is a no-class to wander around in the ring, not giving the victor a few seconds to savour things.

Against Lennox, it was amateur night again.

As opposed to Lennox acting like an amateur ever since that night.

[Moon]

As opposed to Lennox acting like an amateur ever since that night.

Don't understand that Neuro. Amateur since then? For not rematching?

Right now Lennox is outside the fight game. Vitali's team has informally approached Lennox, so he's done the smart thing there. It's now Lennox's decision and Vitali has got to move on. Vitali should start considering things that are immediately available, like current belt holders, to show that he is The Man and establish himself as the new lineal champ.

If anything might get Lennox into a rematch, it's Vitali proving himself as new Lineal Champ. Unfortunately, this will take awhile and Lenny will too old. He might still fight, but it on't be pretty.

By the way, I'm not a Vitali fan (hasn't done enough yet) and Lennox's committment to the fight game has always been questionable, which made me love-hate the guy from fight to fight.

[Moon]

Let's Rewind the Fight ......

Just watched the fight again, stopping video between rounds to summarize .......

Round 1 – Vitali (V) definitely busier than Lewis (L) but neither fighter very effective. Most V’s punches not getting through L’s guard, but scores without any damage. L moving forward a bit more than K, but not bringing jab with him.

Vitali gets this round for being slightly busier. Neither fighter made a statement of any kind, except V showed he’s ready to get busy early.

Round 2 – V eats a good hard jab early, looking susceptible. Soon after, L eats a good right hand and clinches tightly. V shakes off a wobbly legged L and continues to throw but not too effectively. L’s legs looking weak. L's stiff jab backs-up K at 0:58 remaining, but doesn’t follow up. K immediately starts throwing everything and outlands Lewis 11-3 in the final 45 secs.

An easy Vitali round. V beat on Lewis at end of round. L not seriously hurt though. V looking fresher at round end. Both fighters with a good sized mouse under left eye. V spittin’ blood. Replay of V’s big right hand clearly shows that the “sleepy” version of Lewis has shown-up for the fight. Lewis being cleanly beat to the punch on that right hand.

Round 3 – L’s right hand connects in first few seconds, followed by another in the clinch. Gory cut flowing from over K’s eye, but not bleeding into eye. K’s pace slows immediately after cut but still throwing more and landing more than L in the middle of the round. Lewis gets many clean effective jabs over last minute, but K still getting right through guard, but without much effect.

Lewis’ round based on early big shot. L's jab definitely the most effective punch of both fighters over remainder of round. K still looking busier, but no power shots to offset L’s right hand early.

Round 4 – Dullest round of the fight. K definitely less speedy and not throwing as much, but agin busier than Lewis for the entire round. L throwing very little and looks like he’s decided to bicycle this one. Nice stiff jab in final ½ minute that stops K coming in, but K resets and keeps the pace.

Vitali gets this round easily. V threw much more and connected more. Not much power though, but connecting. Easy round for both fighters, especially Lewis who didn’t do a whole lot of anything.

Round 5 – L comes out looking better and connects two good uppercuts very early, but V not too hurt. Fighters are starting to stand in front of each other now. K still throwing more and landing more, but L gets the much heavier shots but very few. Lewis looking wobbly in the legs at mid-round. Lewis very ineffective with jab over last minute. V clearly busier and some shots getting around/through L’s stand-still defense.

V’s round for making more contact, it’s that simple. It's not pretty though. Although most of K’s punches were slipped or blocked, he still threw a **** load more than Lewis and connected more. Lewis was not getting to his man.

Going back their corners, Lewis looked tired but Vitali looks like a gasping corpse covered in thin red jam.

Round 6 – V starts the round looking very ****ty tired, but Lewis not jumping on him. V sneaks a beautiful jab thru the guard and snaps L’s head back, but no follow-up. Lewis almost removes K’s head at 2:00 with a trademark uppercut. V gets in his own uppercut at mid-round but he’s very tired and pushed the punch. V stays busier than L over the remaining time and gets a good right hand thru causing Lewis lean on the ropes. L gets a nice uppercut in near the bell but nothing follows.

Vitali’s round, despite the big uppercut he ate early. This round was a repeat of earlier rounds. V was busier and connected more.

STOPPAGE

In rounds #5 and #6, Vitali was clearly beginning to look very wobbly legged and heavy armed in the last minute. In the following rounds, it would make sense that his round-winning pace would cause him to tire a bit earlier each round. He looked at bit like his brother, almost falling under his own weight, near the end of #6.

Lewis, on the other hand, looked about the same at end #6 as he did at end #2. Not saying he was "fresh" by any means, but he was still moving forward and landing the power shots.

My Guess? Lewis would have worked the left eye more and caused Vitalis' entire upper lid fall over that eye, causing stoppage. Or, Lewis connects late in round 8 with clean uppercut as Klit tries to clich. Vitali falls, not entirely from the shot, but from lack of balance and tiredness. Klit tries to save himself in another clinch over the last 30 seconds, but Lennox slips a huge uppercut that drops the giant ala Michael Grant.

Closing Note ..... where's that HEADBUTT?

[tracylee]

Just try for once to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

you are someone that has wanted this fight for a LONNNGGG TIME!!
someone who isn't a stranger to holding a belt.
but somone that has dreamt of fighting big HWs like Tyson & Lewis for quite a while..
you get in there, have the fight of your life, seeing your dreams right in front of you.. as they quickly get yanked due to a cut above your eye.
in all the pandimonium, knowing the fight due between you and this champ was in by no means over,
that the chance to prove yourself better than that champ was ended prematurely at best..
a rematch in no way was guranteed you
would you try and ask him on the spot?
would it be in a calm mannor?

granted 2 dudes up in your face isn't quite fair, if it was that serious of a threat, some manager or security would have acted ..

VK had the right to want a rematch or to at least ask it under the circumstances..

Man, I can try and put myself in his shoes, the problem is I think I would have a touch more class. Like I said, asking the champ (hell, even demanding it is fine) is just fine..but since when does it take 2 Klitschko giants to get that done? And it's just my opinion, but I'd think that Vitali might have a bit more luck getting that rematch by showing the champ his due respect; not nudging him on the arm and getting in his face ..with big bro lurking in the background. I posted it before and I'll do it again..it got to the point where I honestly wondered if they were gonna jump him. And tell me this, if Lennox was not the class act that he is, and if he has responded to their bullying tatics like most other fighters would have, and had punched Vitali in the mouth one of the many times he nudged him on the arm, do you think a brawl would have broken out?? Of course it would..which Klitschko bro do you think would have backed awaw and stayed out of it?? Neither one..they both would have jumped in there, and the funny thing is by the next day, every Klitschko fan would have Lennox at fault for the whole thing. I realize that didnt happen, cause Lennox does have class..and another thing (man did you mess up! I could go with the "what if's" all day! ) if the situation had been reversed, and Vitali got the win and Lennox was in his corner..running his mouth and nudging him on the arm..do you wanna take a guess as to how Vitali and his bro would have handled that? I sure dont!
Like I said, ask him for one..but dont try to bully and intimidate (there is NO intimidating Lennox Lewis) him..along with big bro., into it..just makes you look bad!

[tracylee]

But, he has a history. Within seconds of Sanders KO's his little brother, Vitali was in Sanders' corner mouthing off. The guy is a no-class to wander around in the ring, not giving the victor a few seconds to savour things.

Against Lennox, it was amateur night again.

Thats pathetic..God forbid that Sanders might want to take a min. to soak it all in before some bully jumps in his face..running his mouth and just asking for it!! Some of these men have loads of class, cause I dont know what keeps them from flooring one of them when they pull that ****!

[Moon]

Thats pathetic..God forbid that Sanders might want to take a min. to soak it all in before some bully jumps in his face..running his mouth and just asking for it!! Some of these men have loads of class, cause I dont know what keeps them from flooring one of them when they pull that ****!

Worst part of it is that Vitali was not wearing gloves that night. Meaning, he was nothing more than a spectator (from his brother's corner) but literally ran to Sander's corner demanding a "fight".

Sound familar?

[Neuraxis]

Don't understand that Neuro. Amateur since then? For not rematching?

Right now Lennox is outside the fight game. Vitali's team has informally approached Lennox, so he's done the smart thing there. It's now Lennox's decision and Vitali has got to move on. Vitali should start considering things that are immediately available, like current belt holders, to show that he is The Man and establish himself as the new lineal champ.

If anything might get Lennox into a rematch, it's Vitali proving himself as new Lineal Champ. Unfortunately, this will take awhile and Lenny will too old. He might still fight, but it on't be pretty.

By the way, I'm not a Vitali fan (hasn't done enough yet) and Lennox's committment to the fight game has always been questionable, which made me love-hate the guy from fight to fight.

Not so much for not giving Vitali the rematch, more so how he has conducted himself with his picking Vitali's opponent to win in every one of his fights. Especially how he conducted himself with his Williams/Vitali predictions.