Lennox Don't Do It

[tracylee]

Truth is truth.. I have no reason to fight truth, only to defend it. If that situation was presented and clearly visible for any other figher, than it would be supported and observed as truth.

I'm not usually so "slow" when it comes to getting someones point, but honestly I'm having trouble figuring out if youre agreeing with my comment or disagreeing??

[Pno]

you were blasting a previous concept that I have felt since the fight and championed on this forum, and that is that the severe injury that cut VK's eye was not a clean punch... I've been trying to get ahold of the fight to watch closer and pull the clip from it. If it were just a glancing blow where the glove grazed VK, then that could still be considered a punch... but if it were the tape or another portion of the glove, then there could possibly be the arguement of incidental stoppage, that would go to the cards..

it's obviously way late and quite irrelevant at this point, I was just defending what I saw.. both in the fight and in your post.


sorry for the confusion.

[tracylee]

you were blasting a previous concept that I have felt since the fight and championed on this forum, and that is that the severe injury that cut VK's eye was not a clean punch... I've been trying to get ahold of the fight to watch closer and pull the clip from it. If it were just a glancing blow where the glove grazed VK, then that could still be considered a punch... but if it were the tape or another portion of the glove, then there could possibly be the arguement of incidental stoppage, that would go to the cards..

it's obviously way late and quite irrelevant at this point, I was just defending what I saw.. both in the fight and in your post.


sorry for the confusion.

Regardless, if the win had been with Vitali under the same circumstances then there wouldnt be all this talk of unclean blows and tape. I believe that the cut was caused more from the power that Lewis possesses in his right hand than any tape. Their hands are taped by pro's to avoid that type of thing, but I'm also very use to Klit fans making it out to be anything other than Lennox delivering hard punches. Nothing new there I just dont see 'tape' doing the amount of damage that was done to Vitalis eye..he had to have reconstructive surgery on it and I just wont contribute that to a piece of tape!

[Pno]

Regardless, if the win had been with Vitali under the same circumstances then there wouldnt be all this talk of unclean blows and tape. I believe that the cut was caused more from the power that Lewis possesses in his right hand than any tape. Their hands are taped by pro's to avoid that type of thing, but I'm also very use to Klit fans making it out to be anything other than Lennox delivering hard punches. Nothing new there I just dont see 'tape' doing the amount of damage that was done to Vitalis eye..he had to have reconstructive surgery on it and I just wont contribute that to a piece of tape!

you must think i'm an ignorant pompous fool. Like i said above, I have no reason not to support truth. so what you replied is really worthless. whatever truly happened is truth, whom it happened to is irrelevant, if it was from LL' immense power, so be it. I just didn't think it was power that cut skin.

[tracylee]

you must think i'm an ignorant pompous fool. Like i said above, I have no reason not to support truth. so what you replied is really worthless. whatever truly happened is truth, whom it happened to is irrelevant, if it was from LL' immense power, so be it. I just didn't think it was power that cut skin.

Actually, I didnt think anything of the kind...if anything I thought you might be yet another Klit fan. And, far as I know, nothing anybody posts here is worthless..so I'm real sorry if my opinion doesnt rank real high with you but I'll recover from that soon enough.
considering that there is bone under that skin, sure a good, strong blow can and will cut the skin..just ask Gatti, who sports more cuts than any fighter alive or had one hell of a run in with some tape on a regular basis.
You dont have to like or agree with my opinion, but you dont have to be a jerk and call it worthless either.
Opinions are like *******s..everyone has one and you can post yours without being one, you know.

[Neuraxis]

NO youre not..you and I have "hashed" this one out til its a dead horse, and I wont go there again. You know my opinion on this so you must be wanting to restart the whole argument again..look elsewhere for that ok..cause I'm not interested

Next time just post this instead:

[Pno]

Actually, I didnt think anything of the kind...if anything I thought you might be yet another Klit fan. And, far as I know, nothing anybody posts here is worthless..so I'm real sorry if my opinion doesnt rank real high with you but I'll recover from that soon enough.
considering that there is bone under that skin, sure a good, strong blow can and will cut the skin..just ask Gatti, who sports more cuts than any fighter alive or had one hell of a run in with some tape on a regular basis.
You dont have to like or agree with my opinion, but you dont have to be a jerk and call it worthless either.
Opinions are like *******s..everyone has one and you can post yours without being one, you know.

I'm sorry if I came off that rude. Yes, I am a Klitschko fan, sorry to dissapoint you I was just suggesting that you had replied in a way that seemingly missed what I had already said.. that truth is truth and that if it happened to Lenox Lewis instead, I have no reason to defy truth. If presented, truth will stand for itself. I just didn't appreciate how it seemed you inferred that I would just be pompous and ignore truth if it happened to be on the side of LL not VK, that's all.

[tracylee]

Next time just post this instead:

Never happen..see, in order for me to surrender, I would have to think that you might be right. There is one hell of a difference in me thinking that and me refusing to **** my head against that oh so familiar wall. But, if it makes you feel better to think that I would actually surrender to your way of thinking (the most rediculous thing I've read so far..just ask anyone here that knows me) then you go right ahead and think that..and pat yourself on the back while youre at it. I mean, you have convinced yourself that Lennox not only lost to Vitali, but is afraid of him..so you making the leap from that to me surrendering isnt so hard to imagine. Just shows that you didnt learn anything about me from all the debates we had in the past.

[tracylee]

I'm sorry if I came off that rude. Yes, I am a Klitschko fan, sorry to dissapoint you I was just suggesting that you had replied in a way that seemingly missed what I had already said.. that truth is truth and that if it happened to Lenox Lewis instead, I have no reason to defy truth. If presented, truth will stand for itself. I just didn't appreciate how it seemed you inferred that I would just be pompous and ignore truth if it happened to be on the side of LL not VK, that's all.

I'm still not certain what youre trying to say here. I dont think youre pompous..and I'm not disappointed that youre a Klit fan..I actually could care less who you like.
My only point was that if it had been Vitali that won under those circumstances, his fans would have been more than happy and supportive of the win..and I stand by that.
Not sure how we're completely "missing" each other here....or what you mean by 'truth', etc. All I know is there is always a good excuse for Vitali's losses, and I'm sure a victory is a good, well earned one for him no matter how it happens..the same does not apply to Lennox, not where Klit fans are concerned.
Some of them act like theres some shame in winning a fight on cuts, and/or he is a dirty fighter for working the cut...give me the name of just one fighter that wouldnt do that.

[Pno]

My only point was that if it had been Vitali that won under those circumstances, his fans would have been more than happy and supportive of the win..and I stand by that.
Not sure how we're completely "missing" each other here....or what you mean by 'truth', etc. All I know is there is always a good excuse for Vitali's losses, and I'm sure a victory is a good, well earned one for him no matter how it happens..the same does not apply to Lennox, not where Klit fans are concerned.
Some of them act like theres some shame in winning a fight on cuts, and/or he is a dirty fighter for working the cut...give me the name of just one fighter that wouldnt do that.

we would all prefer to see VK either get KO'd or KO someone... with less decisive outcomes (a cut is still a cut and a viable way to win and exposing a cut is every fighter's right and every cutman's job to prevent) it leaves a craving to see a decisive outcome. If LL KO'd VK, then there would be no room for the passionate Klit fans to argue (at least reasonably with some sort of ground to stand on)

I'm talking "truth" meaning that no matter what fans claimed what, opinion is instilled in there... with facts, truth stands and cannot be argued, that's all i meant regarding that.