Comments Thread For: Photo: Canelo Alvarez is Slim and Trim, Weighs 166.8

[HeroBando]

all you did was say the dLH fight was at a CW but you forgot to say the weight was @ 147. then he fought Hatton at 140 and then Cotto at 145 CW why fight Cotto at 145 when Cotto was a 147lb fighter... dont try and pull the blind eye. Manny has done the whole CW bull and its nuthing new. Pacman isn't exempt, don't come here bashing on Floyd and then be pro Manny when they both did it ( hypocrite anyone )

as for making me look ****** lol yea all you just did was show how manny went from 147lbs to fight one fighter and then ask another fighter to come in at 145lb and as far as I'm concerned because "it was Manny first 147lb tittle fight " doesn't make a justification for a 145lb fight ( sorry i regret to inform you that fighters don't wear the belt during weight-ins for a fight so first title fight has nothing to due with fighting at 147lb if that was the case then other fighter moving up would do the same when its there first title fight) when both fighter have fought at 147lb before.

its funny how Paulie M moved up and fought for a title at 147lbs and he didnt ask for a CW lol when Cotto moved up to 147lb he fought for a title and didnt ask for a CW. ??

Also Broner just moved up and fought for a title at 147 from 135 and he didnt ask for a CW?? ow and it was his first title fight also and guys what he didnt even set foot in the ring before at 147 ever unlike Pacman.

DLH was not a ranked WW, and beating him didn't make Pac a legit welter. Pac got an offer he couldn't refuse and promptly went back down, what's so hard about this? OTOH if you're holding a belt, it's incumbent on you to fight at the full limit vs a divisional opponent. Only a paper champ would ask for a weight stip.

In all your examples, none of these guys went 6 divisions before asking for a CW, not even close.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Dude...He can't make 140 even if he tried today. But he can make 152. Anything between 148-154 is JMW. So Canelo is still a JMW at 152. That's not a drain. He was just 153 for Trout. Like I stated, if he is growing and having a hard time make 154, then why is he still fighting in that division? But let's keep it 100. This is a money grab fight. BOTH men signed to fight knowing the implications of weight, ring size, gloves, purse etc. Have no pity for Canelo because this grown man signed the contract. He could've fought anybody in the 154 pd division. Canelo has been beating up junior welters and welterweights.

The difference between May and Pac for catch weight fights is that Floyd doesn't have a rehydration clause in it...like Pac did against Cotto and Oscar. Do you really think Oscar would rehydrate himself 2 pounds before a fight? Even when he was fighting at 147, he would balloon back JMW or more. Even Chad Dawson rehydrated pass 2 pounds against Ward. The difference is there is no rehydration limit. Plus I never complained about Pac's catch weight fights. The other side agreed to it, so what's there to argue about. In cotto's case, he was "forced" into the catch weight. He was going to stripped of his title if he didn't do the fight.

Is this a fact? If so, link me please. I'd love to see it.

[Jupiter Maximus]

I think you have to at least be wearing a shirt that says "No ****" on it with a hair cut like that. May start giving some of NSB the wrong idea.

its your fantasy....enjoy it

[HardAss]

***** ass move by the catchweight king

[Ido]

Fight night he wont blow up to 170, maybe 166.

[BoxingFan82]

Seems like most fighters aren't as ravaged by it as you make out, and they have 32 hours until the fight post weigh in, educate me if that is not sufficient.

I'm not suggesting that fighters are "ravaged" by dehydration to the point that they can't fight and win. Everybody's body is different and some are better able to deal with the dehydration/rehydration process than others.

Studies have shown that it can take well over 24 hours to completely rehydrate, and that's with relatively modest percentages of body mass lost.

Based on your comment, you expect Canelo to weigh 162 before he dehydrates himself down to 152. That 10 pounds of water you expect him to lose would represent just over 6% of his body mass. The studies I am familiar with indicate that it generally takes upwards 24 hours to fully rehydrate after being hypohydrated by just 4%. So 6% in 32 hours might be on the borderline for some people under certain circumstances.

Note that in his last fight, Canelo gained more than 15 pounds between weigh-in and fight night and if most of that was water, as many posters suggest, we're probably dealing with hypohydration of far more than 6% of his body mass.

Bottom line: dehydration is not something that's good for you. Folks around here say "it's just water weight" but water makes up more than half of our bodies, so the idea that losing and gaining large amounts of it over short periods of time has minimal impact on the body is foolish. Back in the late 90s, several college wrestlers died in part because of dehydration related to making weight, and even though that's uncommon, it's worth keeping in mind.

[Carmaine]

I'm worried, but not too worried about him losing the rest of the weight. The article did say he weighed more for the 30-day weigh-in for the trout fight. Now granted, he does have to lose an extra 1.5 lbs from his last fight, but now that he hired a nutritionist, I think hes on track to get to 152 safely and not feel weak.

[Reloaded]

I'm not suggesting that fighters are "ravaged" by dehydration to the point that they can't fight and win. Everybody's body is different and some are better able to deal with the dehydration/rehydration process than others.

Studies have shown that it can take well over 24 hours to completely rehydrate, and that's with relatively modest percentages of body mass lost.

Based on your comment, you expect Canelo to weigh 162 before he dehydrates himself down to 152. That 10 pounds of water you expect him to lose would represent just over 6% of his body mass. The studies I am familiar with indicate that it generally takes upwards 24 hours to fully rehydrate after being hypohydrated by just 4%. So 6% in 32 hours might be on the borderline for some people under certain circumstances.

Note that in his last fight, Canelo gained more than 15 pounds between weigh-in and fight night and if most of that was water, as many posters suggest, we're probably dealing with hypohydration of far more than 6% of his body mass.

Bottom line: dehydration is not something that's good for you. Folks around here say "it's just water weight" but water makes up more than half of our bodies, so the idea that losing and gaining large amounts of it over short periods of time has minimal impact on the body is foolish. Back in the late 90s, several college wrestlers died in part because of dehydration related to making weight, and even though that's uncommon, it's worth keeping in mind.

LWs do it but bigger JMWS cant lose less % in Fluid , you throw a lot of numbers around buddy , its just a pity you don't understand what they actually mean to a fighter , you may as well wear a sign around your neck that's says " I know nothing about the workings of a fighter and have no practical experience in boxing "

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[ADP02]

Hatton walked around at 170 and made 140 with ease it don't mean a fck , why are you lot always arguing irrelevant stuff , the relevant evidence is he made 153 last april with no nutritionists or strength trainers , his weight right now is on the money perfect , he don't have to lose any more flesh than right now , its all fluid losing and regaining , just like Manny losing 14lbs to make 135 , the much bigger Canelo can lose the same very easy , just do the maths !

If you don't know about how making weight works and cant put the known facts together in a logical way , then why hate with unsubstantiated BS .

I you were saying this about Cotto and Margarito vs Manny then I would at least say that you are being consistent but we all no that is not the truth here. You are just trying to convince us that Floyd's CW is OK and will not affect Canelo.

Canelo weighed in at 153.5 against Trout but remember that Canelo got gassed out after throwing just a few punches. So now that same guy needs to go down further to 152 and will probably end up being close to 2lbs lighter than vs Trout. This can't be good for Canelo and the pictures show that Canelo doesn't have much more he can lose yet he still needs to drop 15 big pounds!

The good news is that Canelo can always get advice from Oscar on what to do to lose weight

[J-Smooth]

Smh he's probably gonna be losing muscle just to get to 158 let alone the 152 catch weight.