I put HBO Boxing on the same level as replacement refs

[Weebler I]

Ward is the WBA Super Champion and Sartison is ranked #4 by the WBA. How is that a non top 10 fighter?

Top 10 Ring http://******.craveonline.com/rating...r-middleweight i.e. one of the top ten fighters in the division.

[Build That Wall]

HBO is making a profit

SHO lost 12 million in one event

Your analogy makes no sense

HBO only has three things going for them: Gennady Golovkin, Andre Ward, and Michael Buffer. The reason why I did not put the great Juan Manuel Marquez is because he is probably going to retire soon. Otherwise HBO is garbage.

Showtime has: Mayweather, Danny Garcia, Bernard Hopkins, Adrien Broner, ETC. The list goes on and on. The only things HBO is making a profit on is their TV shows. Pretty much anything unrelated to boxing. Showtimes profits have went up because of Mayweather going over to showtime. Entertainment and TV Shows in General HBO takes the cake because they have Game of Thrones and some other popular shows. But when it comes to combat sports not including Football, Showtime has done better this year and will continue to be better.

[itsafight]

HBO only has three things going for them: Gennady Golovkin, Andre Ward, and Michael Buffer. The reason why I did not put the great Juan Manuel Marquez is because he is probably going to retire soon. Otherwise HBO is garbage.

Showtime has: Mayweather, Danny Garcia, Bernard Hopkins, Adrien Broner, ETC. The list goes on and on. The only things HBO is making a profit on is their TV shows. Pretty much anything unrelated to boxing. Showtimes profits have went up because of Mayweather going over to showtime. Entertainment and TV Shows in General HBO takes the cake because they have Game of Thrones and some other popular shows. But when it comes to combat sports not including Football, Showtime has done better this year and will continue to be better.

lol oh look no mention of Pacquiao lmfao.

[Weebler I]

HBO only has three things going for them: Gennady Golovkin, Andre Ward, and Michael Buffer. The reason why I did not put the great Juan Manuel Marquez is because he is probably going to retire soon. Otherwise HBO is garbage.

Golovkin, Pacquiao, Martinez, Froch, Klitschko, Bradley, Kessler, Murray, Kovalev, Marquez, Ward, Rios, Stevenson, Alvarado, Donaire, Rigondeaux have all appeared or will appear on HBO this year.

[Build That Wall]

lol oh look no mention of Pacquiao lmfao.

Miss Pacman got knocked out, he is not relevant anymore. He was a hypejob that people hyped up as a hope that there was one person who could beat mayweather. There is nobody that can beat mayweather, and if there is anybody, Its Gennady Golovkin.

Mayweather=Relevant

Pacquiao=Who is that again. Oh he's that guy that got ktfo by Marquez.

[ShoulderRoll]

Why do you keep bringing up WBA rankings? They dont matter for ****. Sartison is not even top 20 at 168, dont be ridiculous

Ward is their Super Champion. Whether you like it or not he has to consider their rankings when it comes to things like mandatories and optional defenses etc.

Otherwise they'll strip him just like the WBC did.

[Build That Wall]

Golovkin, Pacquiao, Martinez, Froch, Klitschko, Bradley, Kessler, Murray, Kovalev, Marquez, Ward, Rios, Stevenson, Alvarado, Donaire, Rigondeaux have all appeared or will appear on HBO this year.

HBO blacklisted Rigondeaux, They want no part of him and that is a shame. That shows how Butthurt HBO is about donaire losing. Rigondeaux put on a masterpiece and HBO can't appreciate what true boxing is. Hopefully when Rigondeaux's contract is up, he goes over to showtime and Golden Boy Promotions where he will hopefully be appreciated by the Promoters and where he will hopefully be appreciated by the networks.

[Russian Crushin]

Ward is their Super Champion. Whether you like it or not he has to consider their rankings when it comes to things like mandatories and optional defenses etc.

Otherwise they'll strip him just like the WBC did.

Lol please stop. HBO doesnt give a fcuk about WBA ratings and neither should you. You're actually trying to justify this matchup according to WBA rankings? Again dont be ridiculous

[ShoulderRoll]

Lol please stop. HBO doesnt give a fcuk about WBA ratings and neither should you. You're actually trying to justify this matchup according to WBA rankings? Again dont be ridiculous

Even going by Ring's Top 10 like Weebler is....those guys are either not available, not acceptable to HBO, or don't want to fight Ward.

Except James DeGale and Oosthuizen who should have lost in his last fight.

Are you telling me that Sartison is any worse than DeGale? I don't see much of a difference between them. And if anything I bet that Sartison will accept less money.

[SD180sx]

HBO still doing alright, Showtime putting on good fight cards but I wont count HBO out yet. I think showtime kinda flop on May vs Guerrero and barely if any got there money back. May vs Alvarez should be a money maker, but I think Showtime spent A LOT of money promoting and getting this fight card together. Honestly I think they rushed making May vs Alvarez because of barely making there money back from the last fight.