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[King_]

elaborate? yes, my friend - comparing failed sparring partner non entity Pianeta and multiple division champion ATG Oscar De La Hoya, that's the problem.

Ahhhh I see.... Completely Ignlring the fact that Oscar was a 15... Fifteen.... Year pro, had 4 losses and an unofficial loss to Sturm and was In the worse shape He's been in years when he fought Floyd.....

So it's NOT okay to voluntarily defend against a former sparring partner and friend who beat cancer and was THE HIGHEST RANKED undefeated opponent possible for that date on FREE TV - but it IS okay to have a $50 PPV fight against a fat, 5 loss, 15 year pro (that proves what again?)


What's really worse- fightig a "failed sparring partner" or fighting a guy based purely on name recognition? Is the undefeated sparring partner with no other available options THAT much worse


Wait wait... Do you consider Hashim Rahman a good win for Povetkin?

If Wlad fought the GREAT Evander Holyfield 5 years ago on HBO PPV, would that be olay too?


Come on now, don't be silly...


Double standards and delusions at it's finest.... Thanks for elaborating ha.

[LacedUp]

Right now I cannot prove you otherwise on that at the moment but you have said it for sure. Either way like you say I can't prove you otherwise.

As for Pianeta- No, that's the thing. I literally went down the list and showed you all the top 10 fighters and none of them would of taken it. Pulev for example, said in a video HIMSELF a couple of months or so ago that he wanted to defend his EBU title once before fighting Wlad (freedom posted it in the HW thread) Helenius also said in a BSCENE article he wasn't ready yet. Povetkin pulled out twice, and I can't remember who else there was...... But the point is that there was proof that all the guys you mentioned before as the opponents who "would have fought Wlad" when he fought Pianeta - didn't want the fight at the time. I can't find all the proof now. But it's there.


Do I think it's justified? Well let me ask you this...... Do you think Wlad needs justification to stay busy and defend his title against the highest ranked undefeated fighter who was willing to fight him at the time of his planned title defense, who also happened to be a former sparring partner who would be receiving a career pay day? Keep in mind there is "PPV fighters" out there who charge you $50 to watch a fight ( with a guy who has absolutely no business in the ring with the champ just like how you feel about Pianeta) just because they have a big "fan base" who would buy anything with their country men.... AKA oscar De la Hoya...


If Wlad can't fight the highest ranked opponent who was willing to sign the contract (it is what it is but I'm telling you that's the truth- aside from Haye and Chisora who just lost to old man Vitali fighting with 1 arm) why is Floyd allowed to fight a 2007, 4 loss old man Oscar De la Hoya on PPV and have that win be considered a great win? Yet Wlads a cherry picker....


Just throwing that out there.

Just because the top 5-10 wasn't available, it doesn't justify going down to #28. You are incredibly naive if you believe Pianeta was the best available. Fury was begging to fight him!

Are you seriously trying to compare Floyd-De la Hoya to Wlad-Pianeta. It bares no resemblance at all! Floyd cherrypicked a name that would get everybody excited and who would give him a tough fight, which he did. A lot of people were thinking Oscar could win.

Wlad just picked a flat out bum. Nothing more nothing less.

[yoz]

Just because the top 5-10 wasn't available, it doesn't justify going down to #28. You are incredibly naive if you believe Pianeta was the best available. Fury was begging to fight him!

Are you seriously trying to compare Floyd-De la Hoya to Wlad-Pianeta. It bares no resemblance at all! Floyd cherrypicked a name that would get everybody excited and who would give him a tough fight, which he did. A lot of people were thinking Oscar could win.

Wlad just picked a flat out bum. Nothing more nothing less.

Dude, get real. Hennessy wasn't going to let Tyson get in with Wladimir when there was a lucrative domestic fight in play.

Even if Wladimir had fought Tyson, you would have accused him of cherrypicking.

He's fighting Povetkin next. That's a fight to look forward to.

[LacedUp]

Ahhhh I see.... Completely Ignlring the fact that Oscar was a 15... Fifteen.... Year pro, had 4 losses and an unofficial loss to Sturm and was In the worse shape He's been in years when he fought Floyd.....

So it's NOT okay to voluntarily defend against a former sparring partner and friend who beat cancer and was THE HIGHEST RANKED undefeated opponent possible for that date on FREE TV - but it IS okay to have a $50 PPV fight against a fat, 5 loss, 15 year pro (that proves what again?)


What's really worse- fightig a "failed sparring partner" or fighting a guy based purely on name recognition? Is the undefeated sparring partner with no other available options THAT much worse


Wait wait... Do you consider Hashim Rahman a good win for Povetkin?

If Wlad fought the GREAT Evander Holyfield 5 years ago on HBO PPV, would that be olay too?


Come on now, don't be silly...


Double standards and delusions at it's finest.... Thanks for elaborating ha.

So because he beat cancer he deserves a shot at the title? Whilst that is great and I'm sincerely happy for him, don't try to use his sickness as an excuse for his choice.

And how exactly can you be the highest ranked opponent when you're not even ranked? Haha.

[LacedUp]

Dude, get real. Hennessy wasn't going to let Tyson get in with Wladimir when there was a lucrative domestic fight in play.

That's assuming something we don't know about. Haye wasn't on their horizon at the time anyway.

Pianeta was a turd, and that's how it is. He deserved to fight for a title less than Audley Harrison. And that is the truth.

With regards to the thing you added. No I wouldn't. I think it would be a great fight. But I seem to remember you accusing of Haye cherrypicking?

[yoz]

That's assuming something we don't know about. Haye wasn't on their horizon at the time anyway.

Pianeta was a turd, and that's how it is. He deserved to fight for a title less than Audley Harrison. And that is the truth.

With regards to the thing you added. No I wouldn't. I think it would be a great fight. But I seem to remember you accusing of Haye cherrypicking?

I agree with the bold. His choice was indefensible and adds nothing to his resume.

I do like the fact that Wladimir fights regularly, though.

[LacedUp]

I agree with the bold. His choice was indefensible and adds nothing to his resume.

I do like the fact that Wladimir fights regularly, though.

I agree. And the man deserves a lot of respect for fighting 3 times a year at 36. That's impressive.

I would have just liked a better choice of opponent that's all. I remember that hardly anyone was tuning in to watch it, incl myself.

[DreamFighter]

Ahhhh I see.... Completely Ignlring the fact that Oscar was a 15... Fifteen.... Year pro, had 4 losses and an unofficial loss to Sturm and was In the worse shape He's been in years when he fought Floyd.....

The thing that I am trying to ignore the fact that you compared DLH with Pianeta. But you keep reminding me that you actually made the comparison. You actually wrote those words. someone pinch me.