Manny Pacquiao Video: Watch Pac-Man Challenge Floyd Mayweather to Fight

[The Gambler1981]

Personally I blame Floyd and arum. There's no doubt in my mind that pac would hesitate for a second to get in the ring with Floyd as long as he were given a fair deal. It was Floyd trying to protect his 0 from a perceived risk in fighting pac, and Bob protecting his investment in what would be a risky fight for his cash cow.

It is both their faults but that isn't why on either side, the sides just couldn't deal and them not fighting didn't hurt either side near enough to make them deal. It has nothing to do with fear it has everything to do with soured relationships and being perfectly fine without each other.

Oh and if you let someone speak on your behalf and hide behind them that is that persons fault, Manny could have stood up to Arum and forced the issue because Arum needed Manny to make the big money and he couldn't force Manny to fight all it would have taken was Manny saying I won't set foot in that ring unless it is against Floyd. That silence puts blame on Manny squarely.

[The Big Dunn]

Personally I blame Floyd and arum. There's no doubt in my mind that pac would hesitate for a second to get in the ring with Floyd as long as he were given a fair deal. It was Floyd trying to protect his 0 from a perceived risk in fighting pac, and Bob protecting his investment in what would be a risky fight for his cash cow.

If thats your opinion of manny so be it. But you are letting your opinion be the basis for your conclusion rather than the facts.

Manny isn't some hapless peasant who has no control over who he fights. He didn't want to risk the same situation he is facing now-coming off a loss and seeing a significant reduction in guarantee and purse.

You can't just regurgitate Bert SUgar (rip) opinions about floyd losing as fact.

[Deevel916]

It is both their faults but that isn't why on either side, the sides just couldn't deal and them not fighting didn't hurt either side near enough to make them deal. It has nothing to do with fear it has everything to do with soured relationships and being perfectly fine without each other.

Oh and if you let someone speak on your behalf and hide behind them that is that persons fault, Manny could have stood up to Arum and forced the issue because Arum needed Manny to make the big money and he couldn't force Manny to fight all it would have taken was Manny saying I won't set foot in that ring unless it is against Floyd. That silence puts blame on Manny squarely.

Now I've never accused pac of being a smart business man! Lol. Him not standing up to arum has been his biggest mistake throughout his career. All I'm saying is given the fact that he's a puppet and if Floyd and arum were able to come to terms for a fight, I don't see pac making excuses to duck. He would have gladly gotten in the ring with Floyd. He's faced much more dangerous opponents and has even faces the man who has given him the most problems a total of 4 times. Why duck Floyd?

[The Gambler1981]

Now I've never accused pac of being a smart business man! Lol. Him not standing up to arum has been his biggest mistake throughout his career. All I'm saying is given the fact that he's a puppet and if Floyd and arum were able to come to terms for a fight, I don't see pac making excuses to duck. He would have gladly gotten in the ring with Floyd. He's faced much more dangerous opponents and has even faces the man who has given him the most problems a total of 4 times. Why duck Floyd?

OK he is a puppet but you don't get a pass for that, if you passively let something happen on your behalf that still rests on that person. He is complicit in this thus doesn't deserve a pass even if it was the person talking for him that had the issues making the fight. I would also say Manny had no issue with going with the flow or maintaining the status quo because no one was blaming him, if his fans he loved would have held him to the fire a bit more maybe he would have felt more pressure.

[J The UnBiased]

Manny had a 50/50 deal and walked because of testing. He came back 2 years later agreeing to testing but expected the same 50/50 deal to be on the table. That's Floyd's fault?

[J The UnBiased]

Now I've never accused pac of being a smart business man! Lol. Him not standing up to arum has been his biggest mistake throughout his career. All I'm saying is given the fact that he's a puppet and if Floyd and arum were able to come to terms for a fight, I don't see pac making excuses to duck. He would have gladly gotten in the ring with Floyd. He's faced much more dangerous opponents and has even faces the man who has given him the most problems a total of 4 times. Why duck Floyd?

No one's saying Manny was afraid of the fight. Were saying he did not press for the fight as much as his fans want to believe. If Manny really wanted it, the fight would have been made. If Floyd really wanted the fight, the fight would have been made. Manny and camp never excepted that he was the B-Side, and that's where it fell apart.

[bayareamike]

Why call him Pacman when he don't eat up anyone unless they drained or they a mental wreck on a coke habit .

I always wondered why Manny struggled with so many little guys until he went to WW , now all that matchmaking stuff is out in the open , he goes back to the little people only this one is really made to order the last 2 were in form elite and kicked his ass , go the cherry pick .

Roach " we chose Rios to make Manny look good "

Lets be real, pacquiao is a jr welterweight but he had the balls to fight at welter cause he can handle them, dudes a small ass welter. He fought pretty much everyone in the division at the time.

Its good to see that most people realize how much floyd avoided the fight. Look at all the circumstances and goalposts moved and its obvious.

[straightleft]

yeah, cos Manny was shook yet Floyd was begging for the fight, just a few things he said cos he wanted to fight Manny so bad:

"Manny Pacquiao is next (after Ortiz)"

"No I never said that, don't put words in my mouth, the media always puts words in my mouth"

I don't wana fight Manny, he could hurt me"

"I'll fight Manny, get OSDT"

"He got OSDT but I want 100% of the PPV revenue (spekaing in regards to the biggest ppv draw out there, comparable to himself )"

Yes Floyd want's/wanted that fight so bad.

2009-11 Manny beats Floyd, it's close but Floyd loses his "0".

Now Manny is faded but still gives Floyd his toughest fight and that's why the warrior PBF is still afraid...erm I mean he is a businessman looking for the best deal cos obviously there's more money to be had fighting Guerrero and Canelo than a 100 mill against Pac.

floyd on a few other possible dangerous opponents

"Why I gota fight Cotto and Margy (I think this was 06), they both lost etc etc"

On fighting Mosley when Mosley was still close to prime
"I don't fight guys with 5 losses"

Went on to fight Cotto after he was old and had been battered twice.

Went onto fight Mosley after he was old, shot, almost lost to Mayorga, beat a psychology drained Margy (probably juiced in all honesty) and coming off a 16 month layoff.

On fighting Martinez:
"I'll fight him if he drops to 154"

Martinez "I'll fight Floyd at 154"

Haven't heard a peep from Floyd on that matter in 18 months.

War Floyd Mayweather!!! Greater than Robinson, better than Ali, the greatest welterweight of all time!

^^^why have none of the Maynerds replied to that????

Thick skinned floydiots read this.

[woopwoop]

let's wait what the rich coward has to say again.

i bet you it's gonna be funnier than asking pac to sign under tmt.

[hectari]

Guys if you go through this thread Dunn is probably the biggest Floyd butt kisser here. He defends his cowardice with a ferver only a woman who loves her pimp would do. its getting pathetic.

The reason why guys like Dunn are repetitious and keep ignoring responses only to reply with the same rhetoric over and over is because they put all their eggs in one basket, they went hard and bold with their first prediction that Floyd is not ducking so their PRIDE whether it is racial or just for not being wrong or combined with both is so strong that they will even ride with their initial response regardless, even if Floyd came out and said Im a coward they will justify it and say you guys misunderstood his words

They cant say you know what maybe I was wrong! Floyd is coming off like a coward. They can;t I hate prideful idiots, this is what you call FOOLISH pride, not true pride or honorable pride. This is the pride of a sucker who can't even apologize true insecurity.