Facts about Manny and Jmm

[Bermuda]

lots of ****** people with ****** questions. with simple ****en answers. how come pac did not get dropped in fight 1,2,3 vs fight 4. simple, 20 pounds or so of new muscle that marquez has now. it is as simple as that. fight 1-3 marquez was skinny and chubby, no real muscle growth. fight 3 started the beginning of muscle developed marquez. fight 4 marquez was more muscled out. PAC LOST CAUSE HE TAUGHT HE WAS FIGHTING THE SAME MARQUEZ but he was fighting a stronger & more powerful marquez. as simply explained by ariza.

you do know pac was eating punches from guys who were weighing 160+ on fight night while pac was weighing 148-150...

and marquez just all of a sudden is able to bulk up no problem at age 39 when you're testosterone levels are much lower?

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lots of ****** people with ****** questions. with simple ****en answers. how come pac did not get dropped in fight 1,2,3 vs fight 4. simple, 20 pounds or so of new muscle that marquez has now. it is as simple as that. fight 1-3 marquez was skinny and chubby, no real muscle growth. fight 3 started the beginning of muscle developed marquez. fight 4 marquez was more muscled out. PAC LOST CAUSE HE TAUGHT HE WAS FIGHTING THE SAME MARQUEZ but he was fighting a stronger & more powerful marquez. as simply explained by ariza.

Pac ******s are not interested in facts or timelines , Manny is God and he has rules that only apply only to him , Manny can go up and stop big WWs but Juan cant go up and stop him , the evidence against Manny is just overwhelming , everywhere Manny is being exposed , hindsight is just so enlightening .

[maguirre]

Floydiots switching back and forth with whatever suits their agenda.

They used to say Pac is a monster. He beat the crap out of Cotto and Hatton, therefore he's juicing. Now they're saying the opposite because they've become JMM fans out of necessity. Hehe...

Keep on making fools of yourselves.. hehe...

[-Huey-]

Their hero got laid smooth the fuck for cherry picking the 40 year old blown up featherweight.

[Nagabilly]

I won't say a thing about PEDs, no end to that topic.

But Manny always has more power than JMM. If Manny faced JMM's opposition could he have scored more KO? Probably. Could you say the same about Manny's opposition?

With that said, JMM is the true winner of this saga. This is coming from a massive pacfan

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Floydiots switching back and forth with whatever suits their agenda.

They used to say Pac is a monster. He beat the crap out of Cotto and Hatton, therefore he's juicing. Now they're saying the opposite because they've become JMM fans out of necessity. Hehe...

Keep on making fools of yourselves.. hehe...

Ive never said Pac is a monster , Ive always said he was a fake WW , and the proof is everywhere for all to see if you want to be real about it , Ive said the CWs and the made to order opponents are the reason he looked superman at WW , as soon as the healthy elite in form fighters were opposite him he lost and got KOed , now he is in with I will use Freddie Roaches description " 135 had a few at 140 but wont handle Mannys speed and power and will make us look good " in other words another made to order opponent !!!!!!!

Its you that flip flos every second post , I also always said , you cant rag on Floyd and praise Manny , because Manny has done more in manipulating his fights than Floyd ever has , if you go point for point on a debate forum where people vote each point the Pac fanboys will do what they have always done , run !

We all know whats gone on with Manny he sells snake oil to ******s lol .

[the_ilest]

you do know pac was eating punches from guys who were weighing 160+ on fight night while pac was weighing 148-150...

and marquez just all of a sudden is able to bulk up no problem at age 39 when you're testosterone levels are much lower?

pac^^^tard logic

pac is KOING 160LBS and eating shots by 160 lbs....obviously pac not on roids. thats normal.

marquez goes up in weight and does the same thing, pac was doing with 160 lbs and marquez is on roids.

lets not forget pac went from lightweight to welterweight and koed oscar de la hoya. how did he do it...obviously not steroids...

marquez goes from 135-140 to WW and koes pac and its obvious steroids.


its not steroids its technique bro.

[JDezi4]

I think both were on the juice, Manny was on it at the start of his moving up in weight, Juan was on it in the 4th fight...

The big thing about this topic is the simple fact that I have no proof either of them were on anything, same as u have no proof either of them weren't (Other than the fact they passed the drug tests, but do u know who else passed drug tests? Lamont Peterson vs Khan, Shane Mosley vs De La Hoya II)... So please don't jump on the high horse

[megadeth]

This means what? the more you fight a person do you not figure them out more each time? Juan has hurt Manny several times...That like saying why in the first Roy-Tarver fight was Roy not dropped but in the 2nd he was ko'd with 1 punch and hurt in the 3rd fight..makes no sense

You do unless your name is Pacquiao. Then you keep falling for the same right hand fight after fight after fight after fight.

[straightleft]

Juan had more kos then Manny-yet people act like he just found power

Both have 1 stoppage at ww but Juan is the one being accused of juicing

Juan never turned down drug testing,but Manny did..Manny was cleared and his fans said "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS" Juan was labeled a cheater even tho he never failed a test just like Manny fans screamed when Manny was accused of juicing

So why is this?how can this be explained?

Before you scream Memo remember Ariza use to work under Memo so if one is suspect then both are

Floydiot! (Floyd no brain idiot fan). Why not just tell us Marquez hired a notorious PED dealer just to make cocktails of Marquez urine or carry his bags?