Simple, because out of the four fights they've had together JMM was never able to hurt Manny, just wobble him once in the second fight when he caught him mid flight and off balance. Manny always looked the stronger of the two both physically power wise and chin, EXCEPT for the 4th fight where suddenly JMM is scoring one punch knockdowns and one punch KO's. Come on man, something fishy there.
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I don't think anyone truly suspects that Marquez was using PEDs in the build up to the fourth fight. Not anyone whose opinion means anything, anyway.Juan had more kos then Manny-yet people act like he just found power
Both have 1 stoppage at ww but Juan is the one being accused of juicing
Juan never turned down drug testing,but Manny did..Manny was cleared and his fans said "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS" Juan was labeled a cheater even tho he never failed a test just like Manny fans screamed when Manny was accused of juicing
So why is this?how can this be explained?
Before you scream Memo remember Ariza use to work under Memo so if one is suspect then both are
Edit - After reading some of the replies in this thread it seems like there is, which is a shame.Comment
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Juan went up in weight and trained for power , just like Roach wanted when he said we want to force Juan to 147 to make him stand and trade by being bigger and slower , that's what happened , off course the WW version of JMM is going to punch harder than a LW version , both fighters were going for the KO far more than the previous fights and Manny was worked right on to it , nothing to do with luck or PEDS that's just little kids and sour g****s .Simple, because out of the four fights they've had together JMM was never able to hurt Manny, just wobble him once in the second fight when he caught him mid flight and off balance. Manny always looked the stronger of the two both physically power wise and chin, EXCEPT for the 4th fight where suddenly JMM is scoring one punch knockdowns and one punch KO's. Come on man, something fishy there.
The Manny fanboys just don't understand enough of boxing to see passed their own biased agenda , that's why you got Manny rules that don't apply to nobody else .Comment
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the FACT is marquez fought pac TWICE in his prime and didn't knock down pac once and he landed some big solid punches ...but all of a sudden at the old age of 39 and after hiring a KNOWN STEROID CHEMIST he has the power to knock down pac effortlessly with the same shots he landed in the first two fights..and all of a sudden at 39 he has the power to knock pac out cold?...c'mon
plus name ONE top fighter that marquez knocked down with ease with just ONE punch (other than pac)....let alone knocked out cold.Last edited by Bermuda; 08-10-2013, 09:48 PM.Comment
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Juan went up in weight and trained for power , just like Roach wanted when he said we want to force Juan to 147 to make him stand and trade by being bigger and slower , that's what happened , off course the WW version of JMM is going to punch harder than a LW version , both fighters were going for the KO far more than the previous fights and Manny was worked right on to it , nothing to do with luck or PEDS that's just little kids and sour g****s .
The Manny fanboys just don't understand enough of boxing to see passed their own biased agenda , that's why you got Manny rules that don't apply to nobody else .
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Top fighters don't make the mistakes Pacquiao did that night. I love Pacquiao but steroids or not both times he got rocked it was because of his doing.the FACT is marquez fought pac TWICE in his prime and didn't knock down pac once and he landed some big solid punches ...but all of a sudden at the old age of 39 and after hiring a KNOWN STEROID CHEMIST he has the power to knock down pac effortlessly with the same shots he landed in the first two fights..and all of a sudden at 39 he has the power to knock pac out cold?...c'mon
plus name ONE top fighter that marquez knocked down with ease with just ONE punch (other than pac)....let alone knocked out cold.
Marquez committed to the body more than he has in all 3 fights and Pacquiao fell for it in the third round when Marquez faked to the body and caught Pacquiao as clean as he ever was going to catch him. The knockout speaks for itself, Pacquiao went in recklessly and got hit with the force of his weight and Marquez's punch.
Blame the steroids all you want but the truth is Manny was reckless and he fell for all the traps. It doesn't matter how much power you have, if you don't see and expect the punch you're going down.Comment
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Marquez has more KO wins then Pacquie while Pacquie has more KO loses then MarquezJuan had more kos then Manny-yet people act like he just found power
Both have 1 stoppage at ww but Juan is the one being accused of juicing
Juan never turned down drug testing,but Manny did..Manny was cleared and his fans said "LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOBS" Juan was labeled a cheater even tho he never failed a test just like Manny fans screamed when Manny was accused of juicing
So why is this?how can this be explained?
Before you scream Memo remember Ariza use to work under Memo so if one is suspect then both are

Manny's dad since 2004Last edited by littlemac; 08-10-2013, 10:17 PM.Comment
....I got 'kayoed'? Yeah sure I did. I got kayoed in the eleventh year of your decade, right? What a fookin bumsniff.

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