Just watched Devon Alexander vs Matthysse... LMFAO at Matthysse fans crying!!

[JDezi4]

I'm a joke? You're the one who claims Devon had to win 7 and not 6 thus showing you didn't know it was a 10 round fight.

Maybe you did watch it, but you clearly don't remember it that close if you're arguing Devon needed 7 rounds to win the fight.

I agree it was a close fight, and I will even admit there are arguments for Matthysse winning. However, neither guy "should" have won because it was a close fight that either guy could have walked away with.

Oh, that proves it, huh? Like I said, read my other posts, I've reviewed the fight on here before, that'll prove the contrary to ur argument

And its funny that "neither guy deserved to win" when the best most "objective" fans can give Devon is a draw... There is no definition of robbery in this context... Pacquiao/Bradley was a robbery, no matter how close u scored it, Pacquiao deserved the win... Even if u managed to score it as close as 115-113, it was a robbery...

Same thing here, it seems like 50% think Matthysse, 25% say Alexander won. and the other 25% saw a draw... I think its safe to go with the majority under the circumstances

[Lords]

Rewatch the Lucas vs Zab fight, Lucas looks like shlt in that fight too.

[turkas]

Oh, that proves it, huh? Like I said, read my other posts, I've reviewed the fight on here before, that'll prove the contrary to ur argument

And its funny that "neither guy deserved to win" when the best most "objective" fans can give Devon is a draw... There is no definition of robbery in this context... Pacquiao/Bradley was a robbery, no matter how close u scored it, Pacquiao deserved the win... Even if u managed to score it as close as 115-113, it was a robbery...

Same thing here, it seems like 50% think Matthysse, 25% say Alexander won. and the other 25% saw a draw... I think its safe to go with the majority under the circumstances

The best that Devon can be given is 7 rounds in the fight. Those are rounds 1-3, 5, 6, 9, and 10. All were close rounds that an argument for Devon winning can easily be made, it all depends on what you like as a judge. To argue otherwise is lying.

When you say a fight is close or a toss up, like this one was, then really neither guy clearly won it. Hell, this fight only had a few rounds that were clear when it came to scoring. And Majority isn't always the best way to go and this fight is a perfect example. Both you and I agree this fight wasn't a robbery, however the vast majority of boxing fans disagree with us. So obviously that isn't the best path to take.

An educated argument for Devon winning the rounds I listed above can be made, and so can one for Lucas winning wide. Does that mean either guy "deserved" the victory. I would probably say no because deserved to me means clearly won. However, you may have a different definition,

I think Devon won and you think the opposite. Are either of us wrong? Not really, it just comes down to the fact that different judges like different things. And regardless what you, me, or anyone else thinks judges do tend to like Deon's style in fights.

I concede you watched it and just made an honest mistake, but you are making an argument that somewhat contradicts itself.

This fight, along with the Judah fight, was a big test/hurtle for Lucas. He has really grown from it. However, it does drive me crazy when people say Lucas was robbed in this fight when it was pretty close (and I am not claiming you think this). The myth of the invincible Matthysse has really exploded since the two fights he really struggled in.

[JDezi4]

The best that Devon can be given is 7 rounds in the fight. Those are rounds 1-3, 5, 6, 9, and 10. All were close rounds that an argument for Devon winning can easily be made, it all depends on what you like as a judge. To argue otherwise is lying.

I made a thread about it... When u have time, check it out

When you say a fight is close or a toss up, like this one was, then really neither guy clearly won it. Hell, this fight only had a few rounds that were clear when it came to scoring. And Majority isn't always the best way to go and this fight is a perfect example. Both you and I agree this fight wasn't a robbery, however the vast majority of boxing fans disagree with us. So obviously that isn't the best path to take.

I never said it was a toss, I said it was close... Pacquiao/Bradley was close (a lot closer than it was made out to be) but Pacquiao still unarguably deserved the win, thus its a robbery... IMO Matthysse was robbed in a close fight... I'll have to wait and see ur scorecard on that thread I mentioned before I can judge what u were watching... If not, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree...

An educated argument for Devon winning the rounds I listed above can be made, and so can one for Lucas winning wide. Does that mean either guy "deserved" the victory. I would probably say no because deserved to me means clearly won. However, you may have a different definition,

I guess I do, cause IMO a draw, which would still be a robbery as far as I'm concerned is the best u can do for Alexander taking the knockdown in mind... And the fact that a lot of people agree with me, just goes to show my way of thinking isn't especially unique

My definition of a robbery is simply the guy that deserved the victory didn't get it... IMO Matthysse deserved it

But like I said, I made a thread, and I'm giving u the opportunity to show me exactly how u came to the conclusion that Alexander won, which whether I agree or not, would make my argument moot. How often do u get that opportunity arguing on the internet?

[turkas]

I made a thread about it... When u have time, check it out


I never said it was a toss, I said it was close... Pacquiao/Bradley was close (a lot closer than it was made out to be) but Pacquiao still unarguably deserved the win, thus its a robbery... IMO Matthysse was robbed in a close fight... I'll have to wait and see ur scorecard on that thread I mentioned before I can judge what u were watching... If not, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree...



I guess I do, cause IMO a draw, which would still be a robbery as far as I'm concerned is the best u can do for Alexander taking the knockdown in mind... And the fact that a lot of people agree with me, just goes to show my way of thinking isn't especially unique

My definition of a robbery is simply the guy that deserved the victory didn't get it... IMO Matthysse deserved it

I gave Devon 1-3, 5, 6, and 9. That's not far fetched at all.

To compare this fight with Pacquiao-Bradley is laughable. Yes, that fight was closer than it is made out to be, but Manny clearly won 7 or 8 rounds in that fight.

All but 3 rounds in this fight were close and either guy could have won them. In a subjective scoring sport like boxing when a fight is that close it really can't be called a robbery.

Again you contradict yourself. You say Pacquiao unarguably won the Bradley fight thus is a robbery. Fine, I agree, that would meet my definition of a robbery too because no logical argument for Bradley winning can be made.

However, in this fight an argument for Devon winning can be made thus, by your definition, shouldn't be a robbery.

In your opinion did Matthysse win the majority of the rounds? Sure, but an argument against that can be made.

Is it outrageous to think Devon won the rounds I listed above? Not at all, thus this fight wasn't a robbery.

[Ray*]

To be honest I thought Matthyse was a bit raw when he fought the likes of Judah and Alexander, he has polish his craft a bit more since.

[brickcityboxing]

To be honest I thought Matthyse was a bit raw when he fought the likes of Judah and Alexander, he has polish his craft a bit more since.

He also fought Ajose soto and Dallas since then... I won't take anything away from the Peterson win though.

[turkas]

To be honest I thought Matthyse was a bit raw when he fought the likes of Judah and Alexander, he has polish his craft a bit more since.

I agree 100%.

Since those two fights he really has upped his game and taken himself to another level.

[El Angel]

Actually Devon needed to win 7 rounds to win, 6 to get a draw... Its borderline disgraceful that u give Devon 6 rounds for a draw, but if managed to give him 7 for a win? Kill urself

You really can't read can you? I'm saying Matthysse won, no way Alexander won 6 rounds. And as pointed out 6 rounds to 4 is 95-94 Alexander.

[BennyST]

This fight was no robbery it was close as hell. I had it 95-95 with round 6 a draw. Devon started off well and boxed Matthysse's ass for the early part of the fight excluding the knockdown, Devon's trainer had a good approach for this fight, Matthysse looked like he really struggled with Devon's in and out movement early on. He also made Matthysse a bit startled in the second round with the straight left. He gassed a lot towards the end though.

Matthysse had an excellent round in round 7 and landed some huge tough punches throughout the fight, it was no way a dominant win for either fighter and any objective fighter could see this.

Matthysse's fans need to calm down. He wasn't ''robbed'' in this fight or against Zab, I actually think Devon did better than Zab, but of course Matthysse groupies have so much estrogen coursing though their veins that objectivity gets thrown straight out of the window when it comes to him.

The fight with Garcia is 50/50.

Punches don't automatically equal winning mate. You've got to do something with it. Hit the guy, hurt the guy, actually throw it to land it.

Judah at least made it a close, debatable fight that could have gone either way in reality.

Devon really didn't win it any way you look at it....well, unless you just look at nothing but Devon throwing punches and score those and not both guys in the ring and who won the fight.