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  • #81
    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    USADA doesn't have the power to really cancel a fight, neither does VADA. When Morales was caught, USADA also had some trouble determining whether or not Morales was guilty of cheating. Because he trained in Mexico, where some athletes blame it on the food, meat. USADA ended up having several meetings, even after the fight, about Morales case. In the end, they felt he cheated and requested a 2 year ban from boxing.

    VADA had a similar issue with Berto. They felt Berto actually didn't try to cheat and that his positive was due to a contaminated supplement. But the fight ended up getting canceled anyway. But VADA too had no power in as far as the fight happening or not. The Commission is the ultimate determiner.
    The problem is that USADA told morales and the commission that he wasn't guilty. They has dealt with this drug before and immediately called them guilty without giving them 3 different tests and did not allow them to compete. His first test was 3 weeks before the fight and in that amount of time they couldn't come to a decision but needed 4 months more? Whats the point of testing then. How exactly did they come to the conclusion after 4 months anyway, they couldn't track down the exact cow? Why did they give him 3 different test? None of it makes sense.

    The worst part is that morales has banned substances in his system, there shouldn't have been a fight at all

    USADA has caught 2 fighters in boxing so far, one of them They just let fight and the other one the dumped his samples, destroyed them and also let them fight.

    USADA is clearly corrupt and in someone's pockets

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    • #82
      Originally posted by TaurusJ27 View Post
      Angel knows his son is going to get knocked on his ass by Matthysee so he's starting to build up the reason why with the PED accusations.
      I thought that he just wanted to get into Matthysse's head.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by FerFAL View Post
        Yes, the good old trick of using flase accusations to put some dirt on someone that has none. Angel Garcia was convicted of child ******ation and no one brings that up. A guy convicted or raping children shouldnt work in a gym frequented by young kids.
        what are you serious?

        Originally posted by PRp4p757 View Post
        Some of you dudes got a weird obsession with Angel. Danny got an interview up and you rather come comment on what his father say lol. Hope Lucas is mentally stronger than his bandwagon fan boys cause he got u guys in the palm of his hand lol lol lol!
        people like to debate about ignorant comments. angel isn't a mastermind with a plan to piss people off he's just ignorant

        Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View Post
        Keep listening to Angel. Danny is ready. That's the plan, lmao. Piss Matthysse's fans off.
        **** I didn't know the fans were fighting if they're worry about the fans and not lucas they're in trouble

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
          The problem is that USADA told morales and the commission that he wasn't guilty. They has dealt with this drug before and immediately called them guilty without giving them 3 different tests and did not allow them to compete. His first test was 3 weeks before the fight and in that amount of time they couldn't come to a decision but needed 4 months more? Whats the point of testing then. How exactly did they come to the conclusion after 4 months anyway, they couldn't track down the exact cow? Why did they give him 3 different test? None of it makes sense.

          The worst part is that morales has banned substances in his system, there shouldn't have been a fight at all

          USADA has caught 2 fighters in boxing so far, one of them They just let fight and the other one the dumped his samples, destroyed them and also let them fight.
          :****you:
          USADA is clearly corrupt and in someone's pockets

          By the time, the NY Commission had results, there was no definitive answer from USADA. But I think they might have believed his claim that it was food contamination.

          USADA is no more corrupt than VADA. No organization is beyond making mistakes. Neither is VADA who has done their fair share of questionable things, mostly with the Peterson scandal. But despite that, VADA is legit. USADA has a huge reputation and gets grants from the government. If they intentionally do shady tactics, it would ruin them. They cannot be paid off by a promotional entity in a sport as corrupt as boxing. Lance Armstrong tried to bribe them for years and failed. Even Conte, despite his hate of them, isn't foolish enough to say that USADA is corrupt. He merely questions their competence.

          USADA didn't find a positive result with Wright-Quillen. They took one sample, then a day later or so decided to cancel the testing for unknown reasons. The testing was canceled way too quickly for it to be canceled from a positive result. And it's only Winkys camp that claims samples were destroyed. But that is no fact. And no journalist even bothered to ask USADA.

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          • #85
            Get ur excuses up and ready

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            • #86
              Is this like the go to excuse nowadays? PED this PED that shut the *** up and go fight let the commision do their jobs!

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              • #87
                Originally posted by trank View Post

                **** I didn't know the fans were fighting if they're worry about the fans and not lucas they're in trouble
                No, he wants to disrupt the Matthysse fans penis riding of their bandwagon hero.

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                • #88
                  His son is getting KTFO no matter what he says.

                  And unfortunately it's true, cows are injected with Clenbuterol, it's a health problem that's very common in México. Since 2011 several footballers have tested positive with extremely low levels of this substance and it's just because of eating meat.

                  During the Under-17 World cup several players from all over the world tested positive for this substance because of what they were eating.

                  Still the levels are so low that they wouldn't even affect performance so if he says that they're not fighting because of that then he's a bitch.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View Post
                    No, he wants to disrupt the Matthysse fans penis riding of their bandwagon hero.

                    [sarcasm]I know!!!! Supporting a fighter that gets in the ring and actually tries to hurt the other guy! What are they thinking? Why do boxing fans want to see guy lik that? Oh yeah they are just bandwagon jumpers![\sarcasm]

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                    • #90
                      Whether or not he knew or didn't know at the time...I wonder if Morales was on something in that first fight with Garcia. Was there testing for that fight?

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