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  • HeroBando
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    #121
    Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck
    Have you seen Showtimes lineup for the next month and a half, Showtime is about to knock it out the park and they're the second best Boxing network in the U.S. HBO, the "best" boxing network is promoting this garbage and trying to sell it to us, stop it.

    You mad because some 4 rounders are boring on SHO extreme, that's their backup network for boxing. That's equivalent to FNF, and last time I checked, almost every fight on SHO extreme on Fridays, start around 10-11pm EST, I don't know which country you live in, but that's not even close to prime time.
    And Shiming was on tape delay in the afternoon on HBO2 only, not on HBO BAD or WCB. Same thing as SHO Extreme, that's the point.

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      #122
      Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
      HBO is the premire boxing network that everyone hoped would use the money freed up by the GBP spat to put on more quality fights, not use the money to help Bob make boxing big in china. How does that help the HBO viewer?

      SHo extreme is exsposing fighters who viewers can actually be able to go to their fights. They are not helping GBP blow up San Antonio.

      I don't see the big deal. Just don't watch.
      Again, it's been explained a million times, HBO is not paying his purse, nor are they giving up a boxing slot. Just like SHO Extreme, it's bonus boxing.

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        #123
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        And Shiming was on tape delay in the afternoon on HBO2 only, not on HBO BAD or WCB. Same thing as SHO Extreme, that's the point.
        Not his first fight, his first fight was on regular HBO and live, then they replayed it at night.

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          #124
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Again, it's been explained a million times, HBO is not paying his purse, nor are they giving up a boxing slot. Just like SHO Extreme, it's bonus boxing.
          You missed the point-it appears its being done not to help boxing but china and TR. If that bonus slot was given to more accomplished fighter from us/mexico fighting in a western venue there wouldn't be much backlash.

          and he did get an HBO time slot, so you can't just use the 2nd fight and not the 1st.

          You think chinese HBO is showing Oscar Valdez or Gary Russell fights?

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            #125
            Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck
            Not his first fight, his first fight was on regular HBO and live, then they replayed it at night.
            You remembered wrong. It wasn't on HBO and it wasn't live. They may have replayed it as an addon to regular card later, but I have no issue with that, it's a debut of Chinese 2x gold medalist, it's historical:

            http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...but-from-macao

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              #126
              Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
              You missed the point-it appears its being done not to help boxing but china and TR. If that bonus slot was given to more accomplished fighter from us/mexico fighting in a western venue there wouldn't be much backlash.

              and he did get an HBO time slot, so you can't just use the 2nd fight and not the 1st.

              You think chinese HBO is showing Oscar Valdez or Gary Russell fights?
              No you miss the point. It was not a boxing slot at all, to be given to a western prospect. When is the last time a Western prospect fought self financed at 2:45PM?

              And wrong on regular HBO, see link.

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                #127
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                No you miss the point. It was not a boxing slot at all, to be given to a western prospect. When is the last time a Western prospect fought self financed at 2:45PM?

                And wrong on regular HBO, see link.
                fair points. but you can't compare it to sho extreme and then say well its not a bxoing slot.

                If hbo is going to put boxing on at any time, on any tier, it shouldn't be zou IMO. He is a unique phenomenon and deserves the money but watching him isn't my preference.

                I can understand Angel's point and agree with posters saying his fights shouldn't be on. but I don't agree with the bitterness about the money he makes

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  You remembered wrong. It wasn't on HBO and it wasn't live. They may have replayed it as an addon to regular card later, but I have no issue with that, it's a debut of Chinese 2x gold medalist, it's historical:

                  http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...but-from-macao
                  That's my bad, but I knew it was on very early, much earlier than Klits fights on HBO.

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
                    fair points. but you can't compare it to sho extreme and then say well its not a bxoing slot.

                    If hbo is going to put boxing on at any time, on any tier, it shouldn't be zou IMO. He is a unique phenomenon and deserves the money but watching him isn't my preference.

                    I can understand Angel's point and agree with posters saying his fights shouldn't be on. but I don't agree with the bitterness about the money he makes
                    Again, this is not part of their boxing franchise, not WCB, not BAD, not either announcing crew. They get a couple of decent fights and a showcase for free, more or less. Ad since it's delayed, they pick any spot they like on their rerun channel.

                    What pisses me off if they listened to these idiots, a great young talent like Estrada would not have gotten that exposure he richly deserves

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck
                      That's my bad, but I knew it was on very early, much earlier than Klits fights on HBO.
                      2pm is not live there, basically they pick whatever slot is available on HBO2 to show it delayed. That's unlike the Klitschko fights, 2pm is prime time in Germany, and HBO carries it live (when they do) on their main channel. If it goes long, their schedule is affected.

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