Wladimir Klitschko vs Aleksander Powetkin

[Simurgh]

I don't agree Povetkin is hyped fighter. If anything he is one of those guys who are underrated on this forum. Haye-Povetkin would be a very competitive fight IMO. No way Haye would be able to get him out quickly - Povetkin is way too smart to allow that. And he can take a punch too.

Although I don't particularity respect dwyer's opinion, he made some good points regarding Povetkin. Guy is very underrated fighter. Even if he loses to Wlad (and I believe he will) he'll be back.

[LacedUp]

I don't agree Povetkin is hyped fighter. If anything he is one of those guys who are underrated on this forum. Haye-Povetkin would be a very competitive fight IMO. No way Haye would be able to get him out quickly - Povetkin is way too smart to allow that. And he can take a punch too.

Although I don't particularity respect dwyer's opinion, he made some good points regarding Povetkin. Guy is very underrated fighter. Even if he loses to Wlad (and I believe he will) he'll be back.

I'll predict right now, that this will be Povetkin's last fight.

[Simurgh]

I'll predict right now, that this will be Povetkin's last fight.

and I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong and you were right if that happens, but I don't think it will

I actually give Povetkin more chance to beat Wlad then to retire after the fight.

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

Wladimir will pepper him with the jab all night. I don't fancy Povetkin to have much success if he, somehow, gets inside. Povetkin will fight one of two ways: he'll either come at Wladimir from the first, and try and work the body; or he'll try and hang in the fight for 12 rounds, with a view to an almost certain robbery.

Wladimir needs a KO, IMO.

The keys for Wladimir will be the jab and... the uppercut! I sense that Povetkin hass difficulties dealing with uppercuts especially with half hooks half uppercuts. That's why Povetkin is the perfect victim for Vitali Klitschko. Wladimir will have to be more flexbile and fight a little bit more like his brother (eventhough both are vers different fighters).

Povetkin has to be mad if does not put the pressure from the beginning. Trying to play chess with Wladimir is like playing the russian roulette with 5 bullets.

Vitali Klitschko loves pressure fighters because he manages very well the space and finds the right angles despite his relatively slow footwork. By having a very low guard and ggod reflexes he dodges his opponents' shots and counters them with a BEAUTIFUL right cross.

That being said, Wladimir can't counter as well as Vitali. He will have to step back during Povetkin's assaults and use his reach to defend himself with his arms. Wladimir is more the type of fighter that counters instantly without dodging.

That is why I think that Wladimir has mainly two choices : 1- play chess if Povetkin doesn't put pressure (suicidal for him) ; 2- fight very agressive without letting any chance to Povetkin coming close.

We have either Wladimir exposing a brutal and methodical demolition of Povetkin or both fighters going into a dog fight.

Povetkin needs to put W.K away from his comfort zone. I think that Pianeta had a very good gameplan against Klitschko buthe wasn't moving his head too much and was quite slow.

Povetkin will have to ask himself two questions :

1- Can I manage to go under his jab and land hooks?

2- Can I take his shots.

Povetkin will have to fight risky if he wants to win. Wladimir will have to dominate the ring. I see a potentially very big fight. To me, one-sided fights can also be "exciting".

[Simurgh]

The keys for Wladimir will be the jab and... the uppercut! I sense that Povetkin hass difficulties dealing with uppercuts especially with half hooks half uppercuts. That's why Povetkin is the perfect victim for Vitali Klitschko. Wladimir will have to be more flexbile and fight a little bit more like his brother (eventhough both are vers different fighters).

Povetkin has to be mad if does not put the pressure from the beginning. Trying to play chess with Wladimir is like playing the russian roulette with 5 bullets.

Vitali Klitschko loves pressure fighters because he manages very well the space and finds the right angles despite his relatively slow footwork. By having a very low guard and ggod reflexes he dodges his opponents' shots and counters them with a BEAUTIFUL right cross.

That being said, Wladimir can't counter as well as Vitali. He will have to step back during Povetkin's assaults and use his reach to defend himself with his arms. Wladimir is more the type of fighter that counters instantly without dodging.

That is why I think that Wladimir has mainly two choices : 1- play chess if Povetkin doesn't put pressure (suicidal for him) ; 2- fight very agressive without letting any chance to Povetkin coming close.

We have either Wladimir exposing a brutal and methodical demolition of Povetkin or both fighters going into a dog fight.

Povetkin needs to put W.K away from his comfort zone. I think that Pianeta had a very good gameplan against Klitschko buthe wasn't moving his head too much and was quite slow.

Povetkin will have to ask himself two questions :

1- Can I manage to go under his jab and land hooks?

2- Can I take his shots.

Povetkin will have to fight risky if he wants to win. Wladimir will have to dominate the ring. I see a potentially very big fight. To me, one-sided fights can also be "exciting".

Some very good points made.

[yoz]

The keys for Wladimir will be the jab and... the uppercut! I sense that Povetkin hass difficulties dealing with uppercuts especially with half hooks half uppercuts. That's why Povetkin is the perfect victim for Vitali Klitschko. Wladimir will have to be more flexbile and fight a little bit more like his brother (eventhough both are vers different fighters).

Povetkin has to be mad if does not put the pressure from the beginning. Trying to play chess with Wladimir is like playing the russian roulette with 5 bullets.

Vitali Klitschko loves pressure fighters because he manages very well the space and finds the right angles despite his relatively slow footwork. By having a very low guard and ggod reflexes he dodges his opponents' shots and counters them with a BEAUTIFUL right cross.

That being said, Wladimir can't counter as well as Vitali. He will have to step back during Povetkin's assaults and use his reach to defend himself with his arms. Wladimir is more the type of fighter that counters instantly without dodging.

That is why I think that Wladimir has mainly two choices : 1- play chess if Povetkin doesn't put pressure (suicidal for him) ; 2- fight very agressive without letting any chance to Povetkin coming close.

We have either Wladimir exposing a brutal and methodical demolition of Povetkin or both fighters going into a dog fight.

Povetkin needs to put W.K away from his comfort zone. I think that Pianeta had a very good gameplan against Klitschko buthe wasn't moving his head too much and was quite slow.

Povetkin will have to ask himself two questions :

1- Can I manage to go under his jab and land hooks?

2- Can I take his shots.

Povetkin will have to fight risky if he wants to win. Wladimir will have to dominate the ring. I see a potentially very big fight. To me, one-sided fights can also be "exciting".

I agree with most of this, apart from the part in bold. Sure, if Povetkin wants to win in the ring, he needs to come at Wladimir; but i fancy him to fight in survival mode, knowing full well 'they' plan to rob the champ.

[GoldenGloveLove]

I don't agree Povetkin is hyped fighter. If anything he is one of those guys who are underrated on this forum. Haye-Povetkin would be a very competitive fight IMO. No way Haye would be able to get him out quickly - Povetkin is way too smart to allow that. And he can take a punch too.

Although I don't particularity respect dwyer's opinion, he made some good points regarding Povetkin. Guy is very underrated fighter. Even if he loses to Wlad (and I believe he will) he'll be back.

Many in here are underrating Povetkin way too much. I suggest you look some of his fights apart from Huck fight. Everybody has a bad moment or fight, but even at his worst he won the fight.

He is very a good fighter, extremely talented. It's not walk into part for Wlad especially the fight is in Moscow. I not saying this to hype up the fight, but people who are saying Povetkin is a bum know nothing about boxing or they never watched Povetkin.

Yep. Exactly. Povetkin isn't hyped so much as most of the heavies now with any talent get the same treatment. People look at their chances with Wlad and then say they're garbage because they can't picture them becoming champion. Boom. Written off. And all that focus on the Huck fight? You might as well just watch Buster Douglas against Oliver McCall and say "If that's all he's got for McCall the odds against Tyson should be about 45-1. He's a bum. Meaningless fight." It doesn't work like that, people!

I'll predict right now, that this will be Povetkin's last fight.

I hope not because he could make exciting fights with a lot of other guys after this. But I can definitely see that happening.

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

I agree with most of this, apart from the part in bold. Sure, if Povetkin wants to win in the ring, he needs to come at Wladimir; but i fancy him to fight in survival mode, knowing full well 'they' plan to rob the champ.

A roberry would be a huge scandal that would create huge conflicts I think. Russia wants to become a boxing nation just as Germany did several years ago.

Where did you hear/read that they are trying to buy the fight?

[LacedUp]

Yep. Exactly. Povetkin isn't hyped so much as most of the heavies now with any talent get the same treatment. People look at their chances with Wlad and then say they're garbage because they can't picture them becoming champion. Boom. Written off. And all that focus on the Huck fight? You might as well just watch Buster Douglas against Oliver McCall and say "If that's all he's got for McCall the odds against Tyson should be about 45-1. He's a bum. Meaningless fight." It doesn't work like that, people!

I hope not because he could make exciting fights with a lot of other guys after this. But I can definitely see that happening.

That's what people were saying! And he was 42-1 or something like that. But that fight right there is probably the biggest upset in the history of boxing. Probably top 10 in sports history. So 99/100 it does work like that, but as always, anyone in the heavyweight division has a chance. Anyone 200+ can KO another man. I just find it extremely unlikely.

I agree. I just think that Povetkin will get smashed. After that, the hype is gone, he hasn't got the 0 anymore. His fanbase is limited, will it fall or grow after that? Will his managers still back him to the same extent? Let's see, but he could definitely make some good fights with the likes of Haye, Pulev, Fury etc.

I just think he would come up short in those as well.

[Simurgh]

That's what people were saying! And he was 42-1 or something like that. But that fight right there is probably the biggest upset in the history of boxing. Probably top 10 in sports history. So 99/100 it does work like that, but as always, anyone in the heavyweight division has a chance. Anyone 200+ can KO another man. I just find it extremely unlikely.

I agree. I just think that Povetkin will get smashed. After that, the hype is gone, he hasn't got the 0 anymore. His fanbase is limited, will it fall or grow after that? Will his managers still back him to the same extent? Let's see, but he could definitely make some good fights with the likes of Haye, Pulev, Fury etc.

I just think he would come up short in those as well.

Loosing to Wlad is no shame and not a sign fighter should retire.
IMO he would beat Pulev and Fury atm and would give Haye a very tough fight which could go either way.