Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez: Timothy Bradley is Showing His Fear

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  • turnedup
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    #81
    Originally posted by ladiesman217
    Just our of curiousity, which one has the better testing system? USADA or VADA?
    Vada hands down! Vada does not deal with the promoter/manager at all. Positive test goes public right away. Vada's testing is all inclusive, USADA lets the promoters select what an athlete gets tested for. In an olympic environment they are equals but on a smaller scale VADA excels. When people say Olympic styled testing, no such thing exists in boxing via USADA. An OST test result would be muliple pages long, if you look at the usada report for Floyd vs Shane they tested for like 8 things only instead of 25.

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #82
      this whole situation looks shady,,,

      JMm never had a problem with drug testing til he looked like hercules vs manny4...

      Now bradley has it in his contract, yet still being shady about it,,,,

      this only enhances my theory that 75%-90% top level guys for GBP and TR are using illegal substances,,,,,,

      and the promoters dont care,,, they make money off of supermanny and super jmm,,


      this will really tarnish jmm's legacy,,,, im sure he will be cycled of by mid-late august and test clean

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      • mathed
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        #83
        Originally posted by piojo del norte
        How many pounds is the re-hydration clause?
        10 pounds I think.....Bradley is already under 160, it won't be an issue. I guess people need to start digging for an alternate excuse, lol

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        • Rome-By-Ko
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          #84
          Originally posted by mathed
          10 pounds I think.....Bradley is already under 160, it won't be an issue. I guess people need to start digging for an alternate excuse, lol
          I thought Bradley did not agree to the re hydration thing..

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #85
            Marquez still has not taken a test,nuff said..

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            • maguirre
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              #86
              Marquez doesn't want to make the same mistake again like when he fought Mayfeather. JMM wants to make sure he's in tip top physical condition.

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              • radioraheem
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                #87
                Originally posted by ladiesman217
                Just our of curiousity, which one has the better testing system? USADA or VADA?
                They are both the same! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. VADA is just much less expensive. USADA is much more expensive because they have a lot of overhead costs.

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                • Mister Wolf
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Cgarcia
                  Marquez doesn't want to make the same mistake again like when he fought Mayfeather. JMM wants to make sure he's in tip top physical condition.
                  Tip top by taking steroids.

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                  • MIGGATYMAG
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by piojo del norte
                    If by most you mean filipinos and nut huggers then yes. He didn't have a chance? He proved it 3 times before. JMM is a better boxer than Manny deal with it.
                    Did you see how yoked JMM was vs PAC? He looked like a damn body builder.

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                    • radioraheem
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by turnedup
                      Vada hands down! Vada does not deal with the promoter/manager at all. Positive test goes public right away. Vada's testing is all inclusive, USADA lets the promoters select what an athlete gets tested for. In an olympic environment they are equals but on a smaller scale VADA excels. When people say Olympic styled testing, no such thing exists in boxing via USADA. An OST test result would be muliple pages long, if you look at the usada report for Floyd vs Shane they tested for like 8 things only instead of 25.


                      VADA is hired/paid for by the promoter(s). But they can be paid for directly by the fighter(s) too. No matter which is done, both these cases are conflicts of interest.

                      USADA does not allow athletes to pick and choose what they get tested for. Even Victor Conte, who hates USADA, isn't foolish enough to make that statement.

                      In an Olympic environment? In an Olympic environment, VADA does not exist! VADA does not test Olympic athletes. Only USADA does! VADA only done testing for boxers and/or MMA fighters.

                      USADA released a summarized results report on their website for Mayweather-Mosley, Mayweather-Cotto, Mayweather-Ortiz. Each fight, they tested for a whole lot of things. Meanwhile, VADA doesn't even publish on their website a summarized report about their test results.

                      But at the end of the day, VADA and USADA both do the same thing. There is no difference other than cost. Neither is better than the other.

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