Comments Thread For: Arum on Mayweather-Pacquiao in Asia: Never Say Never

[The Big Dunn]

Why do you defend Floyd at all costs? The only thing you have is denying Floyds dumb Olympic testing, even though it was eventually agreed to. Do you ignore all the other roadblocks Mayweather used? How about when Pacquaio had agreed to absolutely everything and Mayweather went quiet and wouldn't even go on live TV and interview about it.

I'm not defending floyd-I'm askng you why you are switching how you define similar actions from different people, one who you like one who you don't.

WHenever manny makes a decision regarding the floyd fight that contradicts his image his fans blame floyd. I find that to be pathetic. If manny is a warrior who fights everyone and is clean-agree to test in 09 and fight. period. Not fighting was bad enough but the cutoff negotiating just made him look guilty nd you know it.

I agree that floyd could've let bygones be bygones and created an atmosphere where a deal could be made. He could've given manny a split of the money that reflected manny being the biggest b side other than Holyfield (tyson). I agree he could've made a better offer than $40 mil no ppv and the crap about joining MP.

Floyd could've taken the high road and not used his leverage the way he did and helped make this fight possible. But he decided he will take the fight only if he gets what he wants.

[T18Z]

ok. so in part, you call it a roadblock because manny decided not to fight and because floyd didn't make it easy fo the fight to get signed. manny's trainer, while not as deep as memo, has connections to ped suppliers. why wouldn't this justify floyd's request to you?

couple things-they are not the joint biggest stars. floyd is 1 manny is 2. period. secondly-when floyd made it easy to sign (50/50) manny walked away over a test. Now I know you and his fans say it was the psychological thing (which you know was BS he jut lost to Morales) but he and his team cited "fear of needls" as well. I think any reasonable person knows these are bull**** excuses and in no way makes the request roadblocks.

Alot else happened between 2009 and the $40 mil no ppv offer. The $40 mil no ppv offer was crap-but gicing manny 12% more than he ever made isn't insulting. if it is, this is the same level of offers manny and his team have made to JMM, cotto etc.

Which is essentially my point-floyd is treating manny the way manny treats his opponents. Now if thats wrong fine-but you nor other manny fans see any problems with it when manny is doing it. this leads me to conclude that these things are not "roadblocks" per say but only called "roadblocks" by you to justify manny making a decision that prevents you from seeing the fight you want. Only you don't want to hold him accountable for his own actions.

Again you are referencing star power to justify manny doing it to those beneath him. the width/gap between level of stardom doesn't make manny's doing it ok and floyd doing it a "roadblock". thats insane to switch your definitionbased purely on gap/width of star power.

I'm sure you think manny had every intention of fighting rios when he asked for ped testing. so why is it different for floyd?

Comparing Memo to Ariza is not even remotely valid.

At the time Manny was easily as big as Mayweather, and no you are not in the position to call it BS in regards to blood weakening someone, if a fighter feels weak from it mentally and physically then that's valid. Go get a degree in physiology then say your dumb comment.

Manny would have to split the 40m with his team and promoters by the way, so it's hardly a huge payday. You are deluded in thinking Manny was not a joint leader in boxing at the time, don't compare him or Floyd to cotto or whatever, it's dumb. It's not so much about the roadblock(s), its how many Floyd used that signifies that most if not all of them were infact roadblocks.

The ******est part was where you called the no PPV offer ******, but then tried to justifying by making some made up random number, even though the fight would have made an exceptional amount, and with your number a 12% increase for possibly the biggest fight in history, meanwhile Floyd walks away with a 50% increase or whatever? That's ******ed.

[Check_hooks]

Is Floyd even allowed to leave the country?

[PACnPBFsuck]

This gives me a little bit of hope at least.

[The Big Dunn]

No need to use logic on these guys because they know the truth. They just don't want to admit it. How blatant has Manny and Bob Arum been about this fight? Arum has went on record and even told Freddie Roach that they don't need Mayweather. Manny has fought the same fighters as Floyd but did not even try to fight him? I think Manny didn't really want it but he would because Bob Arum was/is pulling the strings. Marquez showed that if you really want to fight another fighter you can like he did with Bradley. Manny should have went for the 40MIL because has yet to make that much in one fight. If Manny loses to Rios then you can forget it. It's over for Manny's boxing career.

Grus I think it analagous to the Zahir Raheem fight. I don't think Manny was afraid or ducked raheem but a fight with raheem would've looked worse than the Shane debacle and exposed Manny's lack of ability to cutoff the ring and seal with movement at a time when Bob as beginning to build him.

My criticism of manny is because floyd, jmm, canelo, tim, cotto, margs etc all either took short money or gave up a lot to get a fight with the bigger star. Manny is not so special that he can't do same. A lot of his fans think that he deserves to be treated differently.

[brick wall]

floyd won't fight in Asia...he can't fight there and then take the money and run.

he criticized pac heavily with that ****. he will not do that because he'll come out a big hypocrite...oh wait

[J The UnBiased]

floyd won't fight in Asia...he can't fight there and then take the money and run.

he criticized pac heavily with that ****. he will not do that because he'll come out a big hypocrite...oh wait

I'm a Floyd fan, and I laughed at this lol

[The Big Dunn]

Comparing Memo to Ariza is not even remotely valid.

At the time Manny was easily as big as Mayweather, and no you are not in the position to call it BS in regards to blood weakening someone, if a fighter feels weak from it mentally and physically then that's valid. Go get a degree in physiology then say your dumb comment.

Manny would have to split the 40m with his team and promoters by the way, so it's hardly a huge payday. You are deluded in thinking Manny was not a joint leader in boxing at the time, don't compare him or Floyd to cotto or whatever, it's dumb. It's not so much about the roadblock(s), its how many Floyd used that signifies that most if not all of them were infact roadblocks.

The ******est part was where you called the no PPV offer ******, but then tried to justifying by making some made up random number, even though the fight would have made an exceptional amount, and with your number a 12% increase for possibly the biggest fight in history, meanwhile Floyd walks away with a 50% increase or whatever? That's ******ed.

IMO its a bull**** excuse for losing. either way if you are cosiging it as a reason not to fight fine with me. we can agree to disagree.

manny rejects an offer he can't expect the same offer next time. you think Manny is gonna offer JMM the same amount for a 5th fight that he did before? of course not.

you use joint because you know manny was #2. regardless of how close.

oops misprint The 12% isnt a random number. Manny's biggest payday is $28 mil. he'd make $12 mil more. thats 42%. my bad.

go run the numbers for odh floyd-the biggest fight in history. floyd made a disproportionally small purse compared to odh. he won and now he makes twice as much. you win and you earn more down the road. thats how its done. what is wrong with manny doing same?

[Kuyukut]

i don't think China will allow an ex-convict (wife beater) to enter the country.

it's a standard protocol not to issue visas to undesirable individuals.

[The Big Dunn]

i don't think China will allow an ex-convict (wife beater) to enter the country.

it's a standard protocol not to issue visas to undesirable individuals.

if they let a drug using gambler who frequents hookers in they will let floyd in.