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  • Arum and Pacquiao are bonkers if they think Mayweather is going to fight any other place than in the USA in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand. Floyd does a lot for the economy of Las Vegas when he stages his fights there, they know it and so does he. (The final proof of this is the fact that the judge deferred his DV sentence until the completion of a fight.) Also, despite his brashness and loud mouth Floyd is a pretty loyal American, he may talk about fighting abroad but it will never happen.

    The real issue as I see it is the fact that Manny allowed himself to be associated with a cold and calculating businessman in Bob Arum. I just don't get why he didn't try to free himself like Oscar and Floyd did. If I watch this sport for another forty years I'll never get that.

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    • Originally posted by Slip Stream View Post
      Arum and Pacquiao are bonkers if they think Mayweather is going to fight any other place than in the USA in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand. Floyd does a lot for the economy of Las Vegas when he stages his fights there, they know it and so does he. (The final proof of this is the fact that the judge deferred his DV sentence until the completion of a fight.) Also, despite his brashness and loud mouth Floyd is a pretty loyal American, he may talk about fighting abroad but it will never happen.

      The real issue as I see it is the fact that Manny allowed himself to be associated with a cold and calculating businessman in Bob Arum. I just don't get why he didn't try to free himself like Oscar and Floyd did. If I watch this sport for another forty years I'll never get that.
      Here's why Macau appeals to Arum. You'd think a guy called Money might wanna listen up:

      http://news.yahoo.com/macau-aims-ano...070336646.html

      The former Portuguese colony, now a semiautonomous region of China, overtook the Las Vegas Strip in 2006 as the world's most lucrative ******** market. Last year it raked in $38 billion in ******** revenue, six times more than the Strip.

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      • Originally posted by supremelygifted View Post
        You seem very quick to use the words dumb and ******ed when in fact, it is you that is totally ignoring Manny and Pac's poor judgment. Who in their right mind refuses to take a random drug test if they are clean ? Who passes up that kind of money over a damn drug test ? The 40 million offer would have been manny's biggest payday to date. You mentioned that he would've had to split that 40 million with Arum and his crew. He splits whatever he made on all of his past fights as well as what he will make on the Rios fight.....it won't be 40 million. Floyd does not split the ppv with any fighter so why would he do it now ? As for your argument about blood test weakening an athlete, tell that to Olympic athletes. Go get a degree in physiology ? I'm sure you have a degree in physiology right ? What you obviously lack is the ability to articulate your point without insulting others.
        Floyd offered 40m for Pac to split with Top Rank. They split 40m+ no problem for JMM 3 and 4, which were barely anticipated. That's a joke and an offer meant to be rejected.

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        • Re establish himself as p4p!?!?! When was Pac p4p?? I dont remember that

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          • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
            Floyd offered 40m for Pac to split with Top Rank. They split 40m+ no problem for JMM 3 and 4, which were barely anticipated. That's a joke and an offer meant to be rejected.
            Listen after you agree to 50-50, Pac can pick his golves and mayweather agrees to 10 mil each pound over 147 and you turn that down then you dont get that deal anymore! Pac turned that down in March 2010.

            So Now you get an offer of 40 mil that can be wired in a second to him, biggest payday to date and you still turn that down? You can say thats a lowball offer but he turned down the best offer years ago

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            • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
              Floyd offered 40m for Pac to split with Top Rank. They split 40m+ no problem for JMM 3 and 4, which were barely anticipated. That's a joke and an offer meant to be rejected.
              Pac offered $50m, then 45/45, winner takes the ten. Mayflower rejected them. Easy fight, easy money.

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              • Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
                Pac offered $50m, then 45/45, winner takes the ten. Mayflower rejected them. Easy fight, easy money.
                tell me about that Bradley win against Pac again

                Yeah you should stop trying to use that one

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                • Originally posted by buckdacious View Post
                  Listen after you agree to 50-50, Pac can pick his golves and mayweather agrees to 10 mil each pound over 147 and you turn that down then you dont get that deal anymore! Pac turned that down in March 2010.

                  So Now you get an offer of 40 mil that can be wired in a second to him, biggest payday to date and you still turn that down? You can say thats a lowball offer but he turned down the best offer years ago
                  That's the definition of goalpost moving. Why wasn't the same deal on offer in May 2009, or even similar? Pac came back with 7 days cutoff, Floyd went on vacation.

                  So now you understand that 40m was a **** offer, right?

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                  • Originally posted by uniquehump View Post
                    If Mayweather fought Pac in Idaho, Mayweather is still in his own backyard as it is still in the U.S.
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                    While thats true it's not the way it seems...Cotto had more fans than 2 AMERICANS(paulie and zab) in NY

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                    • Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                      tell me about that Bradley win against Pac again

                      Yeah you should stop trying to use that one

                      well he should have avenged his defeat if he thought he won...Pac does pick his opponents right? OR is the koncz or arum

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