Will you give Haye credit if he beats Fury?

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  • Szef
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    #111
    Let's be honest here guys, the only reason why this fight is big is because both fighters are controversial and hype themselfs to the ridicoulous level.

    The diffrence is Fury is a great showman but shitty fighter, Haye is a fake showman, but a very good fighter.

    Haye will get credit that's for sure, but not for beating top 10 HW but for knocing out the annoying, loud *****.

    And I'll give him credit for that.

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      #112
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      I'm sure he'd be the favorite and rightly so. No one will giv Haye a tougher fight stylistically than Wlad. He's wrong for Haye because he moves so well and is deceptively quick both on hand and foot.



      I think Haye would cause Vitali a lot of problems. Whilst Vitali does have a high punch output, he's not very accurate or a least not as accurate as Wlad and he's a whole lot slower. So if Wlad had issues landing on Haye, what do you think Vitali would? At the same time, Vitali's defense is not on the level of Wlad's, he likes to keep his left hand low like Lennox used to and Haye does and that makes you a tat vulnerable to a right hand - coincidentally Hayes money punch.

      I just think Vitali is stylistically good for Haye and Wlad wasn't.
      Booth, Haye and the fan boys didn't see it that way back in 2011, did they? Booth had a master plan that would neutralize Wladimir's jab. Ha ha ha.

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      • yoz
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        #113
        Aside from a pay day, I don't think Haye is keen on a rematch with Wlad. He knows he can't beat him.

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        • Alx.
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          #114
          Always gave haye his probs, and i do expect him to win

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            #115
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            I'm sure he'd be the favorite and rightly so. No one will giv Haye a tougher fight stylistically than Wlad. He's wrong for Haye because he moves so well and is deceptively quick both on hand and foot.



            I think Haye would cause Vitali a lot of problems. Whilst Vitali does have a high punch output, he's not very accurate or a least not as accurate as Wlad and he's a whole lot slower. So if Wlad had issues landing on Haye, what do you think Vitali would? At the same time, Vitali's defense is not on the level of Wlad's, he likes to keep his left hand low like Lennox used to and Haye does and that makes you a tat vulnerable to a right hand - coincidentally Hayes money punch.

            I just think Vitali is stylistically good for Haye and Wlad wasn't.
            yes, but Vitali would pressure him much more. And Haye needs space to do his thing. It doesn't matter how much Vitali misses. Haye would never out-landed Vitali, never.

            Valuv Haye was a very close fight and Valuev is much slower, less accurate and not as hard punching as Vitali.

            Haye was able to land (something serious) only a few times against Valuev. It's very hard to imagine he would be able to do it more against Vitali.

            Haye's only chance is to KO Vitali, but do you really think he can punch as hard as lennox and that he would be able to do it as often as lennox did. And still that wasn't enough to even hurt Vitali in some serious way.

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              #116
              he'd get some credit, yes. fury is a contender, with wins over top 10ish caliber guys. it's a **** division, but you can only fight who is out there. this is a fight the brits want to see, and they'll juice the MEN arena and create a megafight atmosphere.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Szef99
                Let's be honest here guys, the only reason why this fight is big is because both fighters are controversial and hype themselfs to the ridicoulous level.

                The diffrence is Fury is a great showman but shitty fighter, Haye is a fake showman, but a very good fighter.

                Haye will get credit that's for sure, but not for beating top 10 HW but for knocing out the annoying, loud *****.

                And I'll give him credit for that.


                they're also both british. this fight will be huge. the press conferences are going to be bedlam in the week leading up to the fight.

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                  #118
                  Of course I would, people act like these are not pros

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                  • Szef
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by New England
                    they're also both british. this fight will be huge. the press conferences are going to be bedlam in the week leading up to the fight.
                    Well yeah, I'm looking more to see those press conferences than a fight.

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                    • yoz
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Simurgh
                      yes, but Vitali would pressure him much more. And Haye needs space to do his thing. It doesn't matter how much Vitali misses. Haye would never out-landed Vitali, never.

                      Valuv Haye was a very close fight and Valuev is much slower, less accurate and not as hard punching as Vitali.

                      Haye was able to land (something serious) only a few times against Valuev. It's very hard to imagine he would be able to do it more against Vitali.

                      Haye's only chance is to KO Vitali, but do you really think he can punch as hard as lennox and that he would be able to do it as often as lennox did. And still that wasn't enough to even hurt Vitali in some serious way.
                      Vitali was seriously hurt in the Lennox fight.

                      Anyway, on topic, this is a great post ^. The only way I see Haye ever beating Vitali is by a sneak/controversial decision or if Vitali injures himself/quits. Haye wouldn't chance going for the knockout, IMO.

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