manny pacquiao from 2009 was the best...

[pbftxrs316]

This is the problem with flojobs. They treat everyone like dumb little kids.

He describes Pac in his normal element as a hypejob, that is with or without steroid and all.

Normal folks would be left asking why then is Mayflower so scared to fight an overrated Pac?

What is a normal folks? Who determines what's really normal anyway?lol

Getting someone to agree with you isn't normal per say... It's opinion with a backup...opinion..

He's a hype job due to people like you IMO...not me claiming he is...it's my opinion of him regarding Floyd...

You interpretation is skewed if you ask me, which makes the rest of your point invalid...

[pbftxrs316]

It doesn't matter what flowmos say. The guy whos pole they jack off to smoking admittedly feared for his health going in against Pacquio without extra drug testing. He didn't cause so much controversy and make himself look like such a coward because he thought Pac was going to be easy to smash out of there.

you people in one regard claim Floyd doesn't give good interviews and can't make sense of anything simple sure do try to use his every word against him in another regard...

He wasn't saying he feared Manny, and you know it...he wanted even playing fields....he was talking in broad spectrum making this claim...people who have never stepped in the ring would interpret it as being sxaewd because they have nothing else to lean on.

And many times you people used that to argue your points.lol...

Yet, of course you leave out where Floyd told costas that there's no fighter who could beat him, and that includes Manny...

Too bad Manny and Freddie and Bob feels that same way, but let Manny's fans eat it up and use it...

There is an illumati in boxing also...use up fighters for all they're worth and then throw them away...Floyd is no exception... Let Manny cheat...Floyd is so good it won't even matter anyway right? And you fans eat it right up...

Meanwhile, he beats Manny's ass but is never the same again or vice versa... Will you pay his doctor's fee...this was his point...he never feared Manny pacquiao...but biased fans use any and everything against him to try and shatter his legacy, and it's pathetic, but common....

Bad news though, it won't work in the long-run.....not while I'm here folks....

[pbftxrs316]

A hungry, focused Pac in his prime would of eaten Fraud Jr. alive. Fraud never fought someone with the mental strength Pac had in the past. He fought all these mental midgets that gave up the second they had issues hitting Fraud. Manny, despite Marquez giving him hell troubles, he never stopped fighting his heart out. Fraud saw Manny as his worst nightmare.

Lol...Manny is no different....what makes him any different...he has losses on his record also, which means he can be a mental midget like anyone else...he's been ko'ed 3 times....he's been outboxed aslo...Floyd has not...your claim means little to nothing when Manny refused to fight him....just quit while I'm ahead....

And he fought the same guys after Floyd did, so what were those mental midgets then?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lol...Manny is no different....what makes him any different...he has losses on his record also, which means he can be a mental midget like anyone else...he's been ko'ed 3 times....he's been outboxed aslo...Floyd has not...your claim means little to nothing when Manny refused to fight him....just quit while I'm ahead....

And he fought the same guys after Floyd did, so what were those mental midgets then?

To be fair floyd fought cotto and jmm after manny did,,,,,

[pbftxrs316]

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To be fair floyd fought cotto and jmm after manny did,,,,,

yes he did...and you are being fair but look at them when he fought them both compared to Floyd...Jmm looked a little sluggish against cassamayor and Juan Diaz, yes, but he beat ass....jmm's chin has always been fishy but stronger than many others....Manny fought Jmm and many felt he lost to him in their rematch...cotto lost to margarito, fought for a vacated ww title and went life and death with clottey before fighting Manny at a cw for his title....floyd fought cotto after 3 straight wins and at the maximum weight class...

[hectari]

yes he did...and you are being fair but look at them when he fought them both compared to Floyd...Jmm looked a little sluggish against cassamayor and Juan Diaz, yes, but he beat ass....jmm's chin has always been fishy but stronger than many others....Manny fought Jmm and many felt he lost to him in their rematch...cotto lost to margarito, fought for a vacated ww title and went life and death with clottey before fighting Manny at a cw for his title....floyd fought cotto after 3 straight wins and at the maximum weight class...

So from your logic if Floyd beats Canelo it doesn't count?

Dude you realize Floyd is fighting Canelo at catchweight, so throw that maximum weight class, all that shows is Cotto was already past his best, a prime cotto would have been 140-147 faster and leaner and more dedicated to staying in shape.

to top it off a shot bloated slower cotto gave Floyd his toughest fight, and that came out of Floyds own mouth.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

yes he did...and you are being fair but look at them when he fought them both compared to Floyd...Jmm looked a little sluggish against cassamayor and Juan Diaz, yes, but he beat ass....jmm's chin has always been fishy but stronger than many others....Manny fought Jmm and many felt he lost to him in their rematch...cotto lost to margarito, fought for a vacated ww title and went life and death with clottey before fighting Manny at a cw for his title....floyd fought cotto after 3 straight wins and at the maximum weight class...

lets no act like cotto was on a terror when he fought floyd,,,, cotto beat a one-legged yuri, shot to hell mayorga, and one-eyed margs,,,,,

and he didnt look dominant in any of them,,,,, hell i thought mayorga was beating him till the last round,,,,

the rest of what you say is accurate for the most part

[pbftxrs316]

So from your logic if Floyd beats Canelo it doesn't count?

Dude you realize Floyd is fighting Canelo at catchweight, so throw that maximum weight class, all that shows is Cotto was already past his best, a prime cotto would have been 140-147 faster and leaner and more dedicated to staying in shape.

to top it off a shot bloated slower cotto gave Floyd his toughest fight, and that came out of Floyds own mouth.

Have you read my posts on this fight? You might want to before you go off assuming stuff like many of you do on here....I bashed Floyd for that already....just search my previous posts and you will see this.....

But at least Floyd is defending his title in this case....Manny was fighting for everyone's else's titles.....search my old posts and threads on that also...had Manny just fought them at a catch weight, i would've been okay with it, but titles were made up for Manny to fight cotto and margarito.....

Canelo isn't even the wba Jr MW champion anyway...Floyd is....the cw is fine in that aspect...but Floyd was hypocritical in doing this to a certain degree....

[Vasyl’s dad]

What is a normal folks? Who determines what's really normal anyway?lol

Getting someone to agree with you isn't normal per say... It's opinion with a backup...opinion..

He's a hype job due to people like you IMO...not me claiming he is...it's my opinion of him regarding Floyd...

You interpretation is skewed if you ask me, which makes the rest of your point invalid...

Hype jobs don't beat multiple world champions year after year. Hypejobs are Ricardo Williams and Panchito Bojados and Andre Bertos.

[techliam]

Fair assessment?lol

He started off objective but ruined it with the last part of his thread, and that's the part you read and agreed with....

Manny stopping top guys like who? Oscar?lol

He skipped Mosley in 2009... That was the top guy at ww....hatton? I'll give them that I guess....cotto I'll give to him....

But that's it...him beating up Diaz is the same as Floyd shutting out baldomir, if not, worse...

You idiots on here have been too comfortable in my abscense getting away with hypocrisy....you try and come off as objective by showing your bias to Manny...

It's never just Manny's fault for anything...it's either Floyd's fault alone....or it's Floyd and Manny's fault....lol..or Bob and Floyd's fault...

Manny is to blame for the fight not happening, that's it....him alone....he never wanted to fight Floyd, never...he was juicing IMO and panicked...Floyd was willing to take drug tests from the start...Manny wanted to cheat to win...

Floyd treated Manny the same way like he does any other fighter after that when it came yo the split...Manny gets less than Floyd....Floyd is the bigger draw' period...after gatti, Floyd got the bigger split from Judah and baldomir..before gatti, Floyd always got the bigger split....de LA hoya got the bigger cut, and the advantages and Floyd sacrificed to get the fight...

Hatton sacrificed to fight the top dog....Manny sacrificed to fight Oscar...that's it...Floyd has an ego when it comes to money...yet, he said 50/50 to make the fight happen, and random drug tests for himself and Manny....and Manny agreed.....Manny agreed....and then changed his mind.....

So what did Floyd do? He fights the undisputed ww champion at 147 and Manny fought clottey...then he fought margarito who was a convicted cheat and was ko'ed by Shane...for a vacated title at a cw...

Manny always wanted to rather out due floyd than fight him....if he beat up leftovers in better fashion, he'll be looked at better than Floyd Cruz he knew he couldn't him in any part oh his career...

Now look how everything turned out...Manny finally fights Shane after a draw at a higher weightclass, which Shane hasn't fought at since 2006 if I'm not mistaken...and beats Shane at 147.lol...Shane was dominated by Floyd...before that when he was champion...

I guarantee you all Manny was happy that Floyd didn't want Shane's belt..Cruz that way, manny thought he could slip in and steal it from Shane.lol..and it bavkfieed when Shane vacated it...Manny wouldn't have fought Shane in this case...he wanted to out due Floyd again by fighting another leftover coming off of a bad win or a loss which he did...

Now he's gone through 3 bad performances after that and is fighting another guy coming off of a loss...wow.lol..

While with Floyd, well, we know how he turned out.lol.

Floyd wins again...

You talk of objectivity, yet just look at your post? If you even bother replying to this, which is really up to you, i'm sure you'll come up with the usual mentally deficient response "what are you talking about? you must be a *******" You're all boring, the extreme-floyd/pac stans. It's not so much you're extremely lenient towards them, its the fact you are so against the other fighter. Just admit it lol, there's no Floyd without Pac, there's no Pac without Floyd. They are leeches towards eachother, or so their fans make out. The best posters are looking at other threads unlike this. I feel ashamed even reading this drivel.