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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostEven at 30 years old, you don't get faster, bigger, older, more powerful, all while increasing your cardio all at the same damn time.
Sure, you can get bigger and older, but not faster. You can get faster, but not bigger.
But you don't break WW round by round punch stat records while getting bigger and older dumbass.
The man hit Margarito with 7 punches in less than a second. He threw a crazy 13-14 punch combo against Cotto in like 2-3 seconds.
GTFOH with that fan boy logic b1tch.
If you say Marquez is on PED's against Pac, then Pac was on PEDs from 08-09. period
Again, don't come talking to me about Pac's previous fight night weights
also pacquiao definitely is not faster at welterweight, his speed was about the same, and with guys like margarito and clottey, combo's give the impression of more speed
pacquiao's fight night weight has been 146-147 for a long long time, he went from 140 to 143, and still weighs in 146-147, fight night not a big leap there
only now that he's getting softer and carrying more fat is he coming in alittle heavier
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Originally posted by hectari View PostBro you are being irrational and fanatical here.
Pacquiao has always been fast, always had high workrate, high stamina, good musculature. its in his genetics look at his brother Bobby Pacquiao is he on steroids too?
And Pac looked faster because he was fighting bigger slower guys! when he fought Marquez he looked slower, because Marquez has faster combos than Manny.
And Pacman is slowing down now because of age, he is at the time when most fighters start slowing down, his style is a young mans style not good for longevity.
Pac broke the WW punch stat record. Pac shattered his round by round fight stats as a WW than when he was in his early 20's as a strawweight or whatever he was.
It's a FACT that Pac climbed weight classes while raising his stamina, getting older, stronger, etc.
Shane Mosley fought Prime DLH, Winky Wright, Vargas, Mayora... you name them Shane's fought them. Only people that dropped Shane was Forrest, who was a HUGE welterweight and Pacquiao. And you're telling me Pac didn't get stronger?
It's embarrassing that you're sitting here accussing Marquez of PED's, but not Pac in 08/09. It's the same thing.
Again, I don't want to here schit about fight night weights because just because Victor Ortiz can weight 166 on fight night, doesn't mean he should be fighting as a SMW.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostEven at 30 years old, you don't get faster, bigger, older, more powerful, all while increasing your cardio all at the same damn time.
Sure, you can get bigger and older, but not faster. You can get faster, but not bigger.
But you don't break WW round by round punch stat records while getting bigger and older dumbass.
The man hit Margarito with 7 punches in less than a second. He threw a crazy 13-14 punch combo against Cotto in like 2-3 seconds.
GTFOH with that fan boy logic b1tch.
If you say Marquez is on PED's against Pac, then Pac was on PEDs from 08-09. period
Again, don't come talking to me about Pac's previous fight night weights
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostPac has not always been fast like he was in 08/09 with a high workrate while moving up in weight.
Pac broke the WW punch stat record. Pac shattered his round by round fight stats as a WW than when he was in his early 20's as a strawweight or whatever he was.
It's a FACT that Pac climbed weight classes while raising his stamina, getting older, stronger, etc.
Shane Mosley fought Prime DLH, Winky Wright, Vargas, Mayora... you name them Shane's fought them. Only people that dropped Shane was Forrest, who was a HUGE welterweight and Pacquiao. And you're telling me Pac didn't get stronger?
It's embarrassing that you're sitting here accussing Marquez of PED's, but not Pac in 08/09. It's the same thing.
Again, I don't want to here schit about fight night weights because just because Victor Ortiz can weight 166 on fight night, doesn't mean he should be fighting as a SMW.
his style also changed through the years
he definitely didn't peak at welterweight, that much is for sure, and LMFAO@ "FACT"
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Originally posted by hectari View PostYup, Arum probably knows JMM is on the sauce, and doesn't want to take a loss by canceling the fight or having JMM test positive and than it get called of after putting in millions in promotions and marketing fees.
Roach actually wanted Pac to used testing before the third fight, and than his su****ions got even more serious in the fourth fight but Pacman said Ef it Im a warrior Ill fight whoever, sometimes that warrior mentality is too good for your own good, as Pacman tried everything and even hit Marquez with a kitchen sink and still couldn't drop him like he used too, while Marquez was dropping Pacman with ease like a sack of potatos.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27I can show you guys a video and articles of Ariza telling everyone how hard Pac had to work to RISE in weight against De La Hoya.
Are you guys seriously trying to re-write history here?
Pac is on tape in the Pac-DLH pre-fight videos talking about how hard he's working, how much he's eating just to make 145 against DLH, but you guys are telling me how it's his normal size.
You guys take one idiotic theory, believe it, then jump to the next, believe that, then you look up one day and you guys have literally re-created historic events.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostI'm one tard that agrees with you on Pac JMM 4. It was an even playing field, no complaining. But you're not really talking JMM Bradley. It appears there's real issues there
But the heavy accusations of Marquez roiding from posters that's been advocating Pac for years became to much bare.
But, I believe Marquez is willing to take any/all tests regardless of agency. From reading other posters, it sounds like Arum is trying to throw wrenches in the plans. If that's the case, we should blame Arum, not Bradley or Marquez because they just want to take tests and fight.Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 07-29-2013, 01:52 PM.
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Slob Arum probably doesn't want to pay for any testing. He prob found out he can save 5 dollars using NSAC and thats the hold up
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostI tried talking JMM-Bradley. See page 2 or so.
But the heavy accusations of Marquez roiding from posters that's been advocating Pac for years became to much bear.
But, I believe Marquez is willing to take any/all tests regardless of agency. From reading other posters, it sounds like Arum is trying to throw wrenches in the plans. If that's the case, we should blame Arum, not Bradley or Marquez because they just want to take tests and fight.
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