Mayweather vs Pacquiao @ 147: Who wins?

[shade darkar]

ok. i'll change it to advanced or enhanced ped testing. is that better?

haha. very much so.

[The Big Dunn]

Manny agreed on extra testing. Both Floyd and Manny didn't agree on the cut-off dates because if one agreed to the others cut-off dates then there would be no argument here.

Nope. I will repeat. I hoped Manny would agree to Floyd's cut-off dates because I just wanted to see the fight. I didn't even blame Floyd because I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt BUT I questioned the way he went about it with his accusations. I didn't blame Manny because I knew that drawing blood would give Floyd that psychological edge. I knew to what Manny said in an interview BEFORE the testing negotiations took place about feeling weak before a fight with Morales. Even Manny said it may be a psychological ploy more than a drug issue. I had a very healthy young friend who faints after drawing blood or even just getting a cut .... and its because he gets weak. Now someone may call it BS but at least Manny agreed later to testing just to get the fight on.

After the initial negotiations Manny moved towards agreeing to Floyd's demands while Floyd put new roadblocks. If it was the other way around, I would be criticizing Manny and seriously questioning his initial motives. So that in itself reflects on who really wanted the fight more. Manny who was ready to concede or the one who kept on formulating new roadblcoks. It's easy for most objective persons to answer.

Again, you can say what you want about Manny/Arum requesting so and so but for those fights happened so they were not roadblocks. Floyd NEVER requested those things of others until he did it with Manny (testing) and as for being with Floyd promotions, it's the funniest thing because it's so obvious that any objective person can see. Floyd doesn't want the fight and never did.
Floyd didn't request Guerrero, Canelo, Cotto and anyone else he fought to be part of Floyd promotions. I can't believe Floyd anymore not sure how you can take him seriously anymore.

you keep tryin to justify manny's decision making. he decided not to fight. you wont admit but that deosn't change the facts.

you are not a clinical psychologist so you have no idea the affect or impact. further, 2 posts ago you said anyone that goes with what floyd says is "gullible". funny, thats the same thing you are doing here. Manny got outboxed, no excuses. Manny doesn't get a pass for agreeing after the offer was off the table.

You think manny is going to make the same offer to JMM for a 5th fight as he did earlier this year? of course not so stop pretending.

you use te word roadblocks because you want to put it on floyd. Manny is grown ****ing man that made a decision. it wasn't the decision you wanted and it contradicted the image you have of him. Blame him for letting you down.

Rios, tim, jmm, cotto, margs all did what manny wanted to get a fight wth him because manny is the "a side". floyd did same with ODH. canelo did same with floyd. Manny is no different than any other "b side". If he doesn't take the fight like everyone else its his decision and his fault. They weren't roadblocks because the other guys wanted to fight and get paid. Manny wants the payday but not the fight.

we've gone over the siging to a promoter thing. Manny established that as a precursor and floyd is now doing it to him. TR wanted to make money and so does MP. Yet you are upset now. hmmm

you wont admit it but your real problem is the way floyd is treating manny. you think manny deserves a certain level of respect from floyd. I don't. He's the "b side" and thats the way it goes. same as it was for floyd and everyone else.

Hold a grown man accountable for the decisions he makes-don't blame another man.

[brick wall]

what is sad about this matchup is it has turned to just a fantasy fight...it's not that too long ago when they were were still both at the top of their game and could've easily fought each other

[LoadedWraps]

what is sad about this matchup is it has turned to just a fantasy fight...it's not that too long ago when they were were still both at the top of their game and could've easily fought each other

I know, they are just SO shot, they should just both retire. Nevermind their history, boxing skill, knowledge, experience, and conditioning are worthless unless both are at the absolute peak/primes.

Laughable stuff really, the obscene standards some "fans" want to have for fights sometimes.

[Mr. Fantastico]

honestly, if floyd just had the balls, he wouldve probably beaten pac in a boring elbow fest fight.

[Reloaded]

honestly, if floyd just had the balls, he wouldve probably beaten pac in a boring elbow fest fight.

Manny refused a PEDS test he now wants , that's why the fight did not happen you ****** , why step over that like it didn't happen .Manny was offered 50/50 and clearly ducked the fight .

[miron_lang]

Manny will not win a single round .

possible. And i still want to see it to confirm.



Why you guys still support Floyd on this matter when he had issued statements clearly saying he dont want to fight Pac?


Pac doesnt win a single round and its very possible and yet Floyd doesnt want it?

cmon.

[miron_lang]

Manny refused a PEDS test he now wants , that's why the fight did not happen you ****** , why step over that like it didn't happen .Manny was offered 50/50 and clearly ducked the fight .

so you support Floyd that the offer had an expiration?

[SlySlickSmooth]

In 2010 when Manny was lightning quick man.. that left hand and 6 punch nonstop combos would of been hell for Floyd.

The way Floyd holds his hand, leaves a direct path for a left hand from a southpaw.. sure he can switch it up, but Manny punches from all angles..

Now Manny is too slow, possibly gets stopped in the late rounds.

[Reloaded]

possible. And i still want to see it to confirm.



Why you guys still support Floyd on this matter when he had issued statements clearly saying he dont want to fight Pac?


Pac doesnt win a single round and its very possible and yet Floyd doesnt want it?

cmon.

Because now and when they were prime is 2 different scenes entirely , Manny ducked when the fight was at its best time , what happened after that is smokescreen politics from both camps , right now Floyd is on top of world boxing and Manny was knocked of the same commercial perch , Floyd will fight him if he ditches Arum just like he did Cotto , I actually see them fight if they keep winning , and you all see Floyd totally school him just like he always would have .

That's why I support Floyd in this , why do you supports Mannys agenda when he is fighting losers from divisions below him while Floyd is fighting young undefeated JMWs WCs , Manny has been beaten twice by fighters Floyd will embarrass its as plain as the nose on your face .

You need to look at the big picture .