Comments Thread For: Duran: In My Era, Mayweather Would've Been Ordinary

[The Gambler1981]

1-2 good punches that weren't jabs...oh wait, 3 good punches? Man, put down the crack pipe! And more than just Floyd Mayweather Senior said Oscar won the fight. There were fans and experts the next day saying Oscar won a close fight. Oscar aint no Leonard, Hearns, or Duran either. Oscar is more than close to being as good as Floyd at Welterweight, he wasn't in his prime and Floyd struggled with him. He would have had a harder time against a younger Oscar and you know it. FYI - I have already said many times on this message board that I consider Floyd great. But he would NOT have beaten the top 80's Welterweights and that is the consensus.

Like I said name them, name who said Oscar won the fight, I didn't say **** about Floyd Sr. but I know he isn't a source you would respect. It shouldn't be that hard for a scholar such as you to find all these experts that thought Oscar won.

Oscar did not land **** meaningfully on Floyd except the one punch I recall.

Young Oscar like when he couldn't land clean on a faded Sweet Pea, like when he fought like a total ****** against Mosley in the first fight, like when he threw away the Tito fight. Oscar is a quality fighter but that is three places where HE himself totally messed up so sorry while he might have quality skills he is a dumb fighter which puts Floyd on a totally different plane than him who utilizes his abilities in a much better fashion.

Consensus doesn't mean **** in the ring it is just a sheep popular opinion that people say without thinking and just because an opinion is dissenting it doesn't make it wrong~ FYI I already said in this very thread that saying that Hearns or Leonard or Duran could beat Floyd is a fine and reasonable opinion but so is the other side of that even if some of those guys would be favored over Floyd.

[JoeKidd]

Floyd would box rings around Margo and Floyd don't tire it would be a whitewash .

Probably bust up both his hands by the 6th round and then run for his life.

[richardt]

Like I said name them, name who said Oscar won the fight, I didn't say **** about Floyd Sr. but I know he isn't a source you would respect. It shouldn't be that hard for a scholar such as you to find all these experts that thought Oscar won.

Oscar did not land **** meaningfully on Floyd except the one punch I recall.

Young Oscar like when he couldn't land clean on a faded Sweet Pea, like when he fought like a total ****** against Mosley in the first fight, like when he threw away the Tito fight. Oscar is a quality fighter but that is three places where HE himself totally messed up so sorry while he might have quality skills he is a dumb fighter which puts Floyd on a totally different plane than him who utilizes his abilities in a much better fashion.

I dont come on here to tell lies but many fans including some experts thought it was a close fight and that Oscar edged Floyd. The FACT is, Mayweather went crybaby on the world and retired rather than fight Oscar in a rematch. That speak volumes. Oscar proved he was in the same class as Mayweather not only with a close fight PAST HIS PRIME but the top guys he has fought in his career. But you will not find any majority of people who pick Floyd over Leonard, Duran, and Hearns. Thats the bottom line. Even Cuevas hit much harder than guys who rocked Floyd and if he had caught Floyd clean, it is not impossible to see him taken out. Cuevas was far better puncher and inside fighter than JC. Floyd hasn't even fought a guy with Benitez's speed and skills, let alone the guys who beat Benitez.

[The Gambler1981]

I dont come on here to tell lies. The fact is, it was a close fight and many fans and a number experts thought he won. I'll wager a good deal of money on that fact but won't waste my time googling for less than $100. The FACT is, Mayweather went crybaby on the world and retired rather than fight Oscar in a rematch. That speak volumes. Oscar proved he was in the same class as Mayweather not only with a close fight but the guys he has fought in his career. But you will not find any majority of people who pick Floyd over Leonard, Duran, and Hearns. Thats the bottom line. Even Cuevas hit much harder than guys who rocked Floyd.

Name them or you are talking out of your ass~ it is not a fact unless you can prove it. I have asked three times now so either quit with something you know is garbage or prove me wrong.

I don't need a majority to be right in fact being a gambler I like people disagreeing with me it makes for better odds. You look at people agreeing with your opinion as validation I look at it as just following the crowd not looking close and based on our whole conversation I can come to no other conclusion than that. Now this isn't even a fair debate because I have had this debate on these three fights numerous times and have made more knowledgeable people than you acknowledge my view but you know what I acknowledged their view also because they looked at it deep and came to a different conclusion, you are just looking at the surface and what reflects back at you.

[richardt]

Name them or you are talking out of your ass~ it is not a fact unless you can prove it. I have asked three times now so either quit with something you know is garbage or prove me wrong.

I don't need a majority to be right in fact being a gambler I like people disagreeing with me it makes for better odds. You look at people agreeing with your opinion as validation I look at it as just following the crowd and not looking closer and based on our whole conversation I can come to no other conclusion than that. Now this isn't even a fair debate because I have had this debate on these three fights numerous times and have made more knowledgeable people than you acknowledge my view but you know what I acknowledged their view also because they looked at it deep and came to a different conclusion, you are just looking at the surface and what reflects back at you.

Okay, bet me $500 dollars that I can find 2-3 experts. I'm not going to waste my time doing searches when I know what I heard and read the day after the fight. Who cares if you have some acknowledge or agree with you that Floyd beats Leonard, Hearns, and Duran. Put up a poll and see the results....a landslide. If you think a guy who was rocked by Mosley and Corley can take Hearns right hand, you are hopeless. There is no way in hell Floyd takes one of those blinding combinations from Leonard and tops that. Duran would have mauled your sweetheart.

[The Gambler1981]

Okay, bet me $500 dollars that I can find 2-3 experts or shut the *** up. I'm not going to waste my time doing searches so put up or shut up. Who cares if you have some biased fools that agree with you that Floyd beats Leonard, Hearns, and Duran. Put up a poll and see the results....a landslide. If you think a guy who was rocked by Mosley and Corley can take Hearns right hand, you are hopeless. There is no way in hell Floyd takes one of those blinding combinations from Leonard and remains standing. Duran would have mauled your sweetheart.

You can find someone that says anything, but 2 or 3 experts is what you are hanging your hat on out of what probably 1,000 that scored the fight is what you are hanging your hat on. You said a lot now you are saying 2 or 3. OK thank you for admitting you were wrong.

You have no clue what I am saying or talking about~

[richardt]

You can find someone that says anything, but 2 or 3 experts is what you are hanging your hat on out of what probably 1,000 that scored the fight is what you are hanging your hat on. You said a lot now you are saying 2 or 3. OK thank you for admitting you were wrong. You have no clue what I am saying or talking about~

Learn reading comprehension. I said many fans and some experts said Oscar beat Floyd. For some reason you can't grasp something as simple as that. I also said Floyd would be #4, #5, or #6 if he was around in the 80's. Those Welterweights would have been Floyd's worse nightmare. The funniest thing is you thinking Floyd is an inside fighter in the middle of the ring. He does NOT fight inside in the middle of the ring! If you think Floyd could deal with Hearns lighting jab and be able to get inside and even do anything inside on Hearns, you have never seen Floyd or Hearns fights for more than 5 minutes. Floyd would be laid out flat cold inside of 6 rounds.

[soul_survivor]

He would've made you quit Rob

[The Gambler1981]

Learn reading comprehension. I said many fans and some experts said Oscar beat Floyd. For some reason you can't grasp something as simple as that. I also said Floyd would be #4, #5, or #6 if he was around in the 80's. Those Welterweights would have been Floyd's worse nightmare. Live with it.

2 or 3 is not some, you were talking like it was some real percentage, in any fight you can find 5% that saw a totally different fight 2 or 3 falls into that and is not a serious group and is much lass than 5%. So you were hanging your hat on that? Seriously acting like that is a big deal?


I could give two shits about what you have to say you have been talking out your ass this whole time.


Deal with the fact that Floyd is on those guys level and stands a good chance to win (better than 30% chance in the worst cases). So while those guys may have been nightmares for Floyd he may have also been nightmares for them~

[The Gambler1981]

Learn reading comprehension. I said many fans and some experts said Oscar beat Floyd. For some reason you can't grasp something as simple as that. I also said Floyd would be #4, #5, or #6 if he was around in the 80's. Those Welterweights would have been Floyd's worse nightmare. The funniest thing is you thinking Floyd is an inside fighter in the middle of the ring. He does NOT fight inside in the middle of the ring! If you think Floyd could deal with Hearns lighting jab and be able to get inside and even do anything inside on Hearns, you have never seen Floyd or Hearns fights for more than 5 minutes. Floyd would be laid out flat cold inside of 6 rounds.

Also you repeating the same tired scenario which is a possible outcome does not make that reality no matter how much you wish~ and is not real insight.

I have probably watched more boxing this month than you have watched in your life and I haven't even been watching a lot for me~