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  • dc3383
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    #211
    Originally posted by MurkaMan
    Boy ya better ask around. I was the only one hear saying Floyd would lose. Everyone hear thought he would be counterpunching on the insides, shoulder rolling and all that jive. I KNEW that he would lose if he did any of that. He didnt. NO one expected him to use footwork like that. Thats the reason he dominated. The Mayweather who fought Shane, JMM, Ortiz would have had a tough night. But the Floyd who fought Cotto would have flat out LOST!
    You was one of the people picking the Ghost to win

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    • MurkaMan
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      #212
      Originally posted by dc3383
      You was one of the people picking the Ghost to win
      Exactly! Tnx.

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      • ssc73
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        #213
        First, on Floyd.......BTW..about Duran.......

        I wouldn't say he'd be ordinary. I do think he would have beaten Duran......with a few 'ifs'........like 'which era Duran, what weight, after losing the first fight', etc. I do think the $$ would have gotten Mayweather to WW much more quickly than he did get there.....but his stops at 135-140 would have been MUCH different......

        Someone commented about Mayweather beating Hagler......First, he wouldn't have fought Hagler, second, if you're talking about the shop-worn guy that fought Leonard.......yea, he probably does. But any version of Hagler before around 85 KO's Floyd.

        Hearns would be his toughest fight by far.......without the power to damage Hearns or the killer instinct that guys from that era have, he wouldn't be able to do much at all with Hearns. Maybe he's forced to be more a finisher in that era?? But even then would have had a very hard time touching Hearns...

        Benitez and Leonard are MAJOR tests for Mayweather.......I think they are toss-ups.


        Duran is right about Mayweather's competition to the extent that at the top, it's not there. But he's wrong about how good he is and how he stacks up. I think he is thrown into the conversation, but similar to Benitez, unfairly he would be an after thought when talking of the 'Big Four'..........

        If I can't use draws, and you take the best of that era if Floyd turns pro at 130 in 76........I say it looks something like this:
        Floyd SD Arguello 130
        Duran UD Mayweather 135
        Mayweather SD Duran 135
        Mayweather UD Pryor 140
        Mayweather SD Benitez
        Hearns KO10 Mayweather
        SRL SD Mayweather

        IF Floyd chose to fight at 160, which would be a stretch......
        Hagler KO12 Mayweather (if 85 or before, if after, Mayweather UD by NOT engaging. Just don't think that one legitimately happens)


        De La Hoya was a draw?? Ok, I question if Duran is a little punchy on that one....but.......

        Whoever talked smack about a Duran being a 'quitter' because he felt Leonard was making a mockery of the sport, wasn't there to fight,..........whatever version you use as to the reason Duran walked off, anyone who thinks Roberto Duran was a quitter with no fortitude KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT DURAN and is a pure idiot.

        He BEAT Leonard the first time when Leonard DID fight him........he ran the second fight, used pot-shots and played games. I think Duran was out of shape and not properly prepared. If he had been and Leonard had legitimately wanted to fight, it's much different.....because he didn't. It was a pure joke....Leonard over did it, it's one thing to outbox someone, but to humiliate and run?? Duran could have gone dirty with nut shots and dragged Leonard into the gutter........but he respected the sport more than that.......

        But if you think he was physically damaging Duran, hurting him or anywhere near knocking him out,......you're an idiot too. He never got close enough to do those things. The bolo bull**** and pitty-pat shots Leonard landed did NOTHING but impress the school-girl type broadcasters and judges

        And if you think Duran somehow lacks heart, you're an even bigger idiot.

        If Duran retires after the first Leonard fight, he goes down as first ballot HOF, Greatest LW all-time that, oh, by the way, beat the best WW of his era and top 5 all-time WW too......

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        • steptwome
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          #214
          Duran... you had your day(s). Why the hate?

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          • periks19
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            #215
            Originally posted by MurkaMan
            Ghost is an EXCELLENT inside fighter, and he beats the SHIET out of the body. He couldnt do that with Floyd because Floyd took it away from him by clinching him on the inside. Floyd did NO inside fighting with Ghost.
            Who was the last person he knocked out with a body shot? If something he didn't do much against berto was go to the body

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            • MurkaMan
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              #216
              Originally posted by periks19
              Who was the last person he knocked out with a body shot? If something he didn't do much against berto was go to the body
              You dont have to stop someone to the body with one shot to be a great body puncher. Ghost beat on his body the ENTIRE fight. That was his whole tactic.

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              • Ganondorf
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                #217
                Originally posted by periks19
                How a bout the castillo 1? And he has his opinion on dlh vs pbf probBly he doesn't like the firhter that runs too much and throws like 15-20 punches per round. Remember he is old school where the challenger takes the belt from the champ
                How about Castillo 2?! Lol! I'm just messing with you. The first Castillo fight was close. It was definitely closer to being a draw than the De La Hoya fight, though.

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                • Goldie
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by periks19
                  Dude is not the best i could do is a fact. Since 11 years have passed he hasnt faced a good body puncher with good chin. There is a reason when pbf selects his opponents he avoids that thpe of fighter. And i do understand floyds shoulder injury but that is part of the game not because he was injured he deserved to be saved by the judges. Same like with berto which it looked like he was going to be saved until soto knocked his ass out. I admired bertos courage and heart but that shoulder injury is part of the game if bertos shoulder would of been healed i taught he would of won that fight maybe ko karas.
                  Why are acting as if he didn't fight Castillo 6 months later and clearly beat him? If Castillo had the blueprint to beat Floyd then why didn't he win the rematch or at least make it as competitive as the 1st? All that "the judges saved Floyd vs Castillo" stuff is moot when he gave Castillo an immediate rematch and clearly won. Your bias is clear.

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                  • Mr Ehrmantraut
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                    #219
                    Mayweather is a tomato can compared to Duran.

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                    • illmaticfighter
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by periks19
                      Who was the last person he knocked out with a body shot? If something he didn't do much against berto was go to the body
                      guerrero did try body shots on floyd...

                      he was countering the right hand with body shots early, floyd either took them away or guerrero was taking the rights so hard he gave up on them.

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