Comments Thread For: Duran: In My Era, Mayweather Would've Been Ordinary

[I Love Jesus!]

I think too many people have taken these views way out of context. When you actually look at the era Duran fought in, from top to bottom, not only do you realise why he said it and how true it is, but I think it's much more about Floyd being another one of many great, great fighters if he fought in that era.

He's only such a standout because he's in a division with guys who simply don't stack up no matter which way you spin it.

Going into the 70s, when Duran was just coming into his lightweight brilliance, you had:

Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier at HW
Bob Foster and **** Tiger at LHW
Carlos Monzon and Nino Benvenuti at MW
Jose Napoles, Leonard, Palomino at WW
Nicolino Locche, Antonino Cervantes and Wilfred Benitez at JWW
Roberto Duran himself, Ken Buchanan, Mando Ramos, Carlos Ortiz, Ismael Laguna, Sugar Ramos at LW
Alexis Arguello and earlier Hiroshi Kobayashi at JLW
Vincente Saldivar, Ernesto Marcel and Fighting Harada at FW
Ruben Olivares at BW
Miguel Canto at FLW

It just goes on and on too. That's not even going from the 60's when Duran started or into the 80's when he was still fighting as champion higher up. Incredible fighter and divisions full of scary talent. The contenders of past eras make 90% of today's champs look like trash. That's not a 'black and white' my era was the golden era kind of view. It's ****ing obvious as hell. You don't need anything other than a rudimentary understanding of boxing to see it either.

So yes, Floyd would be ordinary, in the sense that he'd be another great fighter in an era of a hell of a lot of great, legendary fighters. But, make no mistake about it, Floyd is great and Duran knows it and has said it many times before. He likes to watch Floyd and Hopkins more than most. Can't remember the article that he said it in, but he said whenever he watches boxing, which isn't much anymore, he likes to watch Floyd and Hopkins.

That and when other guys do stand out he avoids them at all costs

[I Love Jesus!]

These Capone E fans and Pac fans are actually smiling when it comes to posting in this thread. For what, lmao? Duran wasn't talking about a fighter that you like. If he was, how many of you would be posting Duran quit and got ktfo in this thread, lmao.

A lot of people agree with him for good reason.

[Reloaded]

A lot of people agree with him for good reason.

And a lot of people don't for good reason , typical haters and fans isn't it which is nothing new around here .

[ssc73]

And a lot of people don't for good reason , typical haters and fans isn't it which is nothing new around here .

I'm not exactly sure what's typical here and what isn't. I assume the same on just about every other board.......Pacquiao Fans OR Floyd Fans and each camps take on the other, which unfortunately seem to be an overwhelming majority of conversation on any board.

Problem for me.......I actually like both. I do think Mayweather would win, but Floyd has fought one guy in particular that was a pressure fighter with speed similar to his that he struggled with. He won by a wide margin...but rounds were close and without the volume and influence of announcers, was really a fight he didn't gain control of until the 8th-9th round.

But Floyd has gotten better since then.

As for Floyd avoiding competition at all costs.......that's nonsense. He's made choices to fight Hatton when he could have fought Margarito or Cotto or retired when he could have fought the winner of their fight.......but that's his choice and does anyone really think he had 'fear' of Margarito? Really??

Nor is Manny 'scared' of fighting Mayweather.......the primary problem with that fight is egos and promoters having FAR too much say.......I wish they were relegated to what their title suggests........like Don King with the 'Rumble in the Jungle'......Ali put him in his place SEVERAL times in that buildup.

I am fans of both. Manny is UNBELIEVABLE........Mayweather is RIDICULOUS.......if you threw both in the 80's, I still say their after-thoughts in that era to 'the big four' like Benitez is.......that isn't a knock.........Pacquiao fans are not catching Duran's bigger point....Floyd would be great but because there were so many fighters that were finishers that put on inspiring KO wins.....he wouldn't be the top earner. But the comp may have changed his approach some........

Mayweather fans are also reading this as a diss........it's not.

Too much sensitivity. I'd have much rather watched Mayweather fight Margarito than Baldomir.......but understand why he didn't......and why he broke from Arum......he was going for the big cash and to get to where he is now.......He looked out for himself and his family rather than fight Cotto or Margarito............I'd have done the same. I'd much rather have seen the other fights.......but you can't hold that against Mayweather.

Pacquiao has fought tougher competition ONLY because he's closer to their level as far as being 'gifted'.......Mayweather is much more polished and gifted......Manny hits harder.

And Floyd's choice to fight Alvarez is VERY smart......If I were him, I'd take Khan next for big $$ in England, then Pac for the climax.......then the money for Showtime is made and he picks is last 2-3 opponents and NOBODY can say anything about his choice in opponents. He is a SMALL WW compared to Leonard/Hearns and to fight at MW would be foolish when he walks around at 150.....

Pacquiao has fought guys that were specifically picked for their styles. So is Rios. Arum is trying to cash out on that cow until it's used up, then he'll agree to Mayweather...but I really wish Pac would do what Cotto did and when he refuses to make the fight with Mayweather, which Pacquiao clearly wants, do what Cotto did and walk............

Mayweather and to a lesser extent, Roy Jones have started the 'promote yourself' situation and were successful. Oscar works with Floyd and giving the fighter's more say and pushing for the tougher fights in our out of house is a good thing..............

[JoeKidd]

As for Floyd avoiding competition at all costs.......that's nonsense. He's made choices to fight Hatton when he could have fought Margarito or Cotto or retired when he could have fought the winner of their fight....but that's his choice .

That is a nonsense argument.

[Frank Ducketts]

A lot of people agree with him for good reason.

Nobody gives a flying **** what you have to say about the sport of boxing. You're a co-signer when it comes to anything said bad about Floyd and Broner. Kick rocks loser. I'm the only poster who even talks to you, and I never talk boxing with you so why talk to me?

[Frank Ducketts]

I'm not exactly sure what's typical here and what isn't. I assume the same on just about every other board.......Pacquiao Fans OR Floyd Fans and each camps take on the other, which unfortunately seem to be an overwhelming majority of conversation on any board.

Problem for me.......I actually like both. I do think Mayweather would win, but Floyd has fought one guy in particular that was a pressure fighter with speed similar to his that he struggled with. He won by a wide margin...but rounds were close and without the volume and influence of announcers, was really a fight he didn't gain control of until the 8th-9th round.

But Floyd has gotten better since then.

As for Floyd avoiding competition at all costs.......that's nonsense. He's made choices to fight Hatton when he could have fought Margarito or Cotto or retired when he could have fought the winner of their fight.......but that's his choice and does anyone really think he had 'fear' of Margarito? Really??

Nor is Manny 'scared' of fighting Mayweather.......the primary problem with that fight is egos and promoters having FAR too much say.......I wish they were relegated to what their title suggests........like Don King with the 'Rumble in the Jungle'......Ali put him in his place SEVERAL times in that buildup.

I am fans of both. Manny is UNBELIEVABLE........Mayweather is RIDICULOUS.......if you threw both in the 80's, I still say their after-thoughts in that era to 'the big four' like Benitez is.......that isn't a knock.........Pacquiao fans are not catching Duran's bigger point....Floyd would be great but because there were so many fighters that were finishers that put on inspiring KO wins.....he wouldn't be the top earner. But the comp may have changed his approach some........

Mayweather fans are also reading this as a diss........it's not.

Too much sensitivity. I'd have much rather watched Mayweather fight Margarito than Baldomir.......but understand why he didn't......and why he broke from Arum......he was going for the big cash and to get to where he is now.......He looked out for himself and his family rather than fight Cotto or Margarito............I'd have done the same. I'd much rather have seen the other fights.......but you can't hold that against Mayweather.

Pacquiao has fought tougher competition ONLY because he's closer to their level as far as being 'gifted'.......Mayweather is much more polished and gifted......Manny hits harder.

And Floyd's choice to fight Alvarez is VERY smart......If I were him, I'd take Khan next for big $$ in England, then Pac for the climax.......then the money for Showtime is made and he picks is last 2-3 opponents and NOBODY can say anything about his choice in opponents. He is a SMALL WW compared to Leonard/Hearns and to fight at MW would be foolish when he walks around at 150.....

Pacquiao has fought guys that were specifically picked for their styles. So is Rios. Arum is trying to cash out on that cow until it's used up, then he'll agree to Mayweather...but I really wish Pac would do what Cotto did and when he refuses to make the fight with Mayweather, which Pacquiao clearly wants, do what Cotto did and walk............

Mayweather and to a lesser extent, Roy Jones have started the 'promote yourself' situation and were successful. Oscar works with Floyd and giving the fighter's more say and pushing for the tougher fights in our out of house is a good thing..............

Good post.

[wizard king]

I'm going to tell your mother that you have a potty mouth.

Put this back in your mouth and tell your sisters and and your mom I'll be home for dinner, keep them coming I like laughing at your clown antics

[Khalid X]

Man Floyd would be great in any era.

He is hands down one of the most skilled fighters of all time, and his defense is top 3 of all time.

Da f)vk you mean he would be ordinary?

Anybody who knows me, knows I'm no fan of Floyd, but the hate he gets is ridiculous.

[Body_Snatcher]

Man Floyd would be great in any era.

He is hands down one of the most skilled fighters of all time, and his defense is top 3 of all time.

Da f)vk you mean he would be ordinary?

Anybody who knows me, knows I'm no fan of Floyd, but the hate he gets is ridiculous.

Duran's era was better but Mayweather would be great in any area. Just not undefeated. As he would have to go through Arguello, Pryor, Leonard, Hearns, Duran