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  • JoeKidd
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    #231
    Originally posted by Ganondorf
    Floyd doesn't beat up on anybody? Lol. What happened to Chico and Gatti? The Gatti beating was one of the worst beat downs I've ever seen in the ring!
    Who hasn't beat him up?

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    • ssc73
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      #232
      Originally posted by JoeKidd
      What would be interesting to know is how many fans that lived through the Duran era rate Floyd. If you haven't lived through the Duran era then you cannot compare. And no, I don't rate Floyd. He doesn't beat up on anybody. And no, he's not a good advert for the sport. He's a non-action winner. Floyd is moreso a reflection of how bad current boxers are!
      If you want to see an opinion on Floyd that's not biased by someone that saw Duran BEFORE the Leonard fight, check my post on page 22...............it's long, but it's honest......

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #233
        Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
        even that version of Floyd would have been mauled by Duran


        i mean just look at what examples you guys are throwing out...Corrales, Castillo...these guys are ****ing B-level fighters and you're gonna match him up against an ATG beast that was tested against other ATGs


        Manos de Pierda is correct...Floyd would NOT be unbeaten...he would NOT be the golden child (Leonard) had that


        there was no 24-7 to help 'sell' those ATGs...no one woulda gave a crap about Floyd...he would have been ordinary


        he would have killed himself to stay at 130
        I understand your point but I am focused more on what Floyd did than what Corrales did. Floyd's speed of hand and foot, ring acumen, movement (which we know was Duran's greatest weakness) versatility and punching power at that weight would have given Duran fits. Don't act like it wouldn't


        By the way Duran is saying he would have been "part of the pack" of Duran, Leonard and Hearns not head and shoulders above them.

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        • SaldanaCC
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          #234
          Every boxer actually every sport has a hall of famer clamin that its nothin lik the old days
          in some cases and sports there right but i dont think boxing is one of them i belive there were more fighters back then guys lik rios who stood toe ta toe but skilled raw talented boxers there were very few.
          17 yrs floyd has been dominating this sport u mean to tell me all those guys were bums.....ya right i got floyd over duran and hagler but lenard idk.
          The guy makes champs looks average cant blame him for that.

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          • Ganondorf
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            #235
            Originally posted by JoeKidd
            Who hasn't beat him up?
            That is beside the point. How many other fighters do you know that knocked Chico down 5 times? I believe Floyd could have put his foot on the gas and got Miguel Cotto out of there in the 12th. This is the guy who beat the great Marquez 120-108! Juan Manuel Marquez doesn't get shut out very often!

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            • ssc73
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              #236
              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              I dissagree. Ghost is a tactical boxer who makes great adjustments on the fly. But at ww, he started brawling which makes him tougher, and harder to beat. He isnt a combination puncher, he's a swarmer. His punches are too close together for you to easily avoid them like you would do a combination. With his height, reach, durability, jab, ability to be diverse, I think he will be hard to beat. He is much better than Nonito who can only outbox small slow opponents. Nonito could have beaten Rigo if he was relentless and brawled, because he would have been too big and strong for Rigo. But instead he was looking like a margarita type of fighter. Flatfooted, bum, easy to turn. Ghost is underrated skillwise.

              And btw, the Floyd who fought short, slow Cotto would have gotten DOMINATED by Ghost. Ghost would have been too tall, and physical. Good thing for Floyd he had his footwork to fight a taller guy. I predicted Floyd to lose.
              Actually........I think Cotto doesn't get enough credit for what the fight he gave Floyd. Cotto isn't fast, but his timing is very good (see fights vs Mosley, Mayweather), he's very heavy handed and he used the BEST punch to beat Mayweather with.......a well-timed heavy jab that Floyd can't counter over......

              I'm not that impressed with The Ghost yet.........I did NOTHING vs Mayweather, made NO adjustments, and as soon as he started getting countered, his volume dropped off a cliff.....which to me was his ONLY chance..........

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              • Frank Ducketts
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                #237
                If Floyd would've been ordinary, then this whole era from 160 on down was ordinary because Floyd is the best of this era. I think that Duran is underestimating Floyd as a fighter. In fact he is.

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                • JoeKidd
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by ssc73
                  If you want to see an opinion on Floyd that's not biased by someone that saw Duran BEFORE the Leonard fight, check my post on page 22...............it's long, but it's honest......
                  Almost accurate assessment. Mayweather has a chance against Duran at 147 but he gets KO'd at any smaller weight. Definitely KO'd by Hearns but a chance against the other names, SRL, Benitez etc.

                  Accurate assessment about Duran-Leonard II. Duran took the money and ran...sticking it to the fans. SRL & the fans were mocking Duran, hooting at SRL's monkey faces and bolo punches. Duran was in no shape for that track meet.

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                  • turnedup
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                    #239
                    He's an ATG and Hall of famer..I respect his opinion. You should too even if you don't agree with it. This guy has actually lived boxing first hand not through some keyboard...I think he knows more about the sport than we can ever imagine grasping. He's also right about they were used to everything in the ring, boxers didn't train for one solitary game plan back in the days which is why we have so many classics to look back on. Many of those guys fought to their strengths but could change it up if need be to win the fight. Guys today not so much..you have guys changing their entire fighting style years into their careers and struggling with those changes.

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                    • Frank Ducketts
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by turnedup
                      He's an ATG and Hall of famer..I respect his opinion. You should too even if you don't agree with it. This guy has actually lived boxing first hand not through some keyboard...I think he knows more about the sport than we can ever imagine grasping. He's also right about they were used to everything in the ring, boxers didn't train for one solitary game plan back in the days which is why we have so many classics to look back on. Many of those guys fought to their strengths but could change it up if need be to win the fight. Guys today not so much..you have guys changing their entire fighting style years into their careers and struggling with those changes.
                      We respect his opinion, but it's still an opinion.

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