Bob Arum "Pac will never fight in the US again"

[Sweet Pea 50]

Of those 1.7m in the Bay Area, how many have seen him fight live? Not very many, most will purchase the PPV at the same regular time whether it's in Macau or Nevada. And of the few that went to see him live, are they really getting slapped in the face? Seems a little overemotional, especially from someone who does not belong in that group and tends to hate on it.

Are we arguing?

I do think that there are some Pinoy-Cali-Americans that would have paid big bucks to have seen him fight here. Live. They aren't rare out here.

I'm just saying. Anyways..

Arum thinks he struck a gold mine. Could be true. Macau makes Vegas look like dogshit, from the promos I have seen.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I dont care where manny fights,,, As long as i can watch it live i will be happy...

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I dont care where manny fights,,, As long as i can watch it live i will be happy...

pretty much...as long as i can watch the main event at its usual time, i dont care...besides, he's got what? 1? 2 fights left? no biggie...let Arum use PAC to expand boxing in different markets

[HeroBando]

Are we arguing?

I do think that there are some Pinoy-Cali-Americans that would have paid big bucks to have seen him fight here. Live. They aren't rare out here.

I'm just saying. Anyways..

Arum thinks he struck a gold mine. Could be true. Macau makes Vegas look like dogshit, from the promos I have seen.

The potential is massive, but you gotta reel them in. There's a lot of other sports competing for a slice, but a lot of things are aligning nicely for boxing there. Arum is no fool, he'll tread lightly with Shiming, but if it catches on, there will be better pro talent to latch onto in China soon

[Frank Ducketts]

Maybe there's only room for one boxer in your heart, but PPV rankings don't work like that at all. There is a #2, #3, etc. There can be dispute of course, except in this case there's none really.

You were saying it was mathematically impossible to have lost that much, a real strong statement. Back it up

As far as ppv's go Pac WAS #2. Not anymore.

And stop lying about what I said about SHO losing 12 mil. You said it, and gave no proof at all. The Reed gave a perfect explanation as to why SHO did NOT lose 12 mil.

[tank17211]

Which for me kind of sucks, i really enjoyed the Pac Man fights in Vegas, all the hype, the excitement, and all of the fine Asian chicks in town.
Damn I am really going to miss that *****

Bob, we get it. You are a super wealthy guy that does not want to pay more taxes. How bout the common man that shells out 60 bucks for Pacquiaos PPV's.

[Public_Enemy]

I wanted to see Manny fight live before he retires but I understand. He needs to make sure he's financially set in his few remaining fights. If Pac ever fights JMM again or Floyd, he may end up fighting in the US again though.

[thuggery]

These are his last few fights, he needs to ensure he's financially set. This really isn't a big deal other than those who actually attended or planned to attend his fights in Vegas. For the average boxing fan, it's simply just another PPV purchase. As long as the event I'm watching is live (which it will be) there's no issue where it takes place.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

As far as ppv's go Pac WAS #2. Not anymore.

And stop lying about what I said about SHO losing 12 mil. You said it, and gave no proof at all. The Reed gave a perfect explanation as to why SHO did NOT lose 12 mil.

Then who is #2 in the ppv....
Floyd is the clear cut #1 but who has replaced manny at #2.... Manny did 1.2+ with jmm4.... Serg vs chavez Jr didnt even do half that....j

Manny still #2 ppv draw till proven otherwise..

[HeroBando]

As far as ppv's go Pac WAS #2. Not anymore.

And stop lying about what I said about SHO losing 12 mil. You said it, and gave no proof at all. The Reed gave a perfect explanation as to why SHO did NOT lose 12 mil.

Who is? Other than Floyd and Pac, who else can carry a PPV by himself, at 500k+ buys?

Seems pretty definitive here.

Showtime did not lose 12 million on Floyd-Guerrero. Showtime may have not made a big profit off of Floyd Guerrero, but mathematically they didn't lose 12 mil.

So I'm asking you to give me the Cliffs Notes. Don't worry, I'm not scared of that math, don't have to dumb it down too much, just stop weaseling