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  • #31
    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    you are right. it's all the same. patterson, frazier, foreman or peter. i see no difference. they are all humans wearing gloves!
    Peter would have knocked at least two out of the other three out, stone cold and drooling on the canvas, had they been able to fight in their prime. You know it's true.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SOLARflare View Post
      Peter would have knocked at least two out of the other three out, stone cold and drooling on the canvas, had they been able to fight in their prime. You know it's true.
      so you don't like comparing resumes because it's circular logic but you do like fantasy logic? fantasy logic is a lot easier. all you have to do is say so and so beats so and so. the end! well that proves it.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by daggum View Post
        ok take away pac and maywather and hatton is the greatst of all time? since when do we pretend guys dont exist just to make others look better?
        ....when people criticise them based on the weakness of their era and the perceived weakness of their opponents, it's worth looking at how the era might be viewed without them.

        It's like the Klits can't get a good win even when they get a good win.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SOLARflare View Post
          Who did Ali beat to become an ATG, Patterson? Frazier? Foreman? Who did those guys beat to become ATGs? It's circular logic...I'd take prime Sam Peter to blast Frazier into a ****ing coma.
          and you would be the only one.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            so you don't like comparing resumes because it's circular logic but you do like fantasy logic? fantasy logic is a lot easier. all you have to do is say so and so beats so and so. the end! well that proves it.
            By all means, let's compare resumes! Explain to me how Joe Frazier is an ATG based upon his resume...go!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GeneralZod View Post
              and you would be the only one.
              It wouldn't be the first time that I was the only one who was right.

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              • #37
                vitali has a horrible resume,was popped with peds and quit in a fight he was winning.

                the best thing he ever did was lose to lennox and they'd still be looked at as a joke if wlad never reinvented himself.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by illmaticfighter View Post
                  vitali has a horrible resume,was popped with peds and quit in a fight he was winning.

                  the best thing he ever did was lose to lennox and they'd still be looked at as a joke if wlad never reinvented himself.

                  Cotto's best win is Judah and he quit against Margarito in a fight he still could have won...they don't call him Kneeguel for nothing.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                    How many of these guys would have become world champion if it were not for the Klits? that would kind of put a different spin on their careers.
                    It would be a sad day for any of them to be considered the best heavyweight in the world. Some have some talent but, come on, get in shape. Arreola comes in 20-30 pounds overweight. How much better would he have been if he was lighter and able to move more.

                    I like the Ks. I think they deserve respect for their accomplishments but between them they're only fought one TOP 50 fighter and that was Lennox Lewis (a TOP 10 - TOP 15) fighter.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SOLARflare View Post
                      Who did Ali beat to become an ATG, Patterson? Frazier? Foreman? Who did those guys beat to become ATGs? It's circular logic...I'd take prime Sam Peter to blast Frazier into a ****ing coma.

                      Really? The SAME Sam Peter that got ****ing schooled by a brain damaged, no testosterone producing, blown up obese 38 year old MIDDLEWEIGHT, if that weren't enough Peter was at the pinnacle of his career the fight took place immediately after the Wlad fight as well lmao!

                      You Klit lickers are the most delusional fan base of all time.

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