Comments Thread For: Emile Griffith - Hall of Famer Passes Away at Age 75

[edgarg]

What are you trying to imply here? That it's impossible to grieve for the loss of a parent or loved one if you never actually knew them? I'm hard pressed to determine which would be the more difficult task : To lose someone you love after knowing them most of your life, or to be denied the opportunity of ever having gotten to know them in the first place.



Who could blame him after the things Paret had said about him publicly? He probably had no idea how mortally injured Paret was in that moment, anyway. Guys boast over beaten men in this sport all the time, very rarely does it result in death. Holding a grudge against Griffith for behaving the way most other fighters behave is an extremely emotional thing to do coming from someone as callous as yourself.

Are you Benny Paret's widow or something?

I can truthfully say that I don't know what you are trying to prove here. And I don't want to bother trying. It's too obtuse and has moved away from the points originally under attack.

Give it up and do yourself a favour. I believe that the medical opinion is that it's far worse to lose someone you've known most of your life than a parent you never knew. To grieve over the latter is pure conjecture, except in extreme cases where the grown son or daughter is otherwise emotionally/mentally unbalanced. Don't blame me for the opinions of those who profess to know.

I've actually heard several people who never knew either their mother or father, say something like this. Why should I not believe them.

[edgarg]

Rip to an atg fighter and a very brave man.With that said keep it up Bringer and edgar fun fight to read.

Mark, I like that beautiful picture you have there. One of them reminds me of a girl in Panama who was trying hard to marry me about 3 years ago. When she wanted to move in -and bring her 4 year old child- I got scared.

As for "Bringer" he can bring whatever he wants, I don't mind, he seems to have a "ground-level" (he's bound to criticise the hyphen) and undeveloped understanding of human relationships, of which he is unaware.

He's not a bad guy, just has found something to grab at and make as much noise as he can. What possible interest he can have in my description of the Paret death and much later account of Griffith and Paret's son's emotional greeting, I just don't know. As I recall, the emotion was only on Griffith's side, I suppose it moved him. It was very awkward.

I particularly like Bringer's dis*****g the facts with me, and just love the way he's trying to teach me English. a McGuffy's Reader graduate trying to teach ANYONE Engllsh...

just some nice, clean, fun.

[edgarg]

What are you trying to imply here? That it's impossible to grieve for the loss of a parent or loved one if you never actually knew them? I'm hard pressed to determine which would be the more difficult task : To lose someone you love after knowing them most of your life, or to be denied the opportunity of ever having gotten to know them in the first place.



Who could blame him after the things Paret had said about him publicly? He probably had no idea how mortally injured Paret was in that moment, anyway. Guys boast over beaten men in this sport all the time, very rarely does it result in death. Holding a grudge against Griffith for behaving the way most other fighters behave is an extremely emotional thing to do coming from someone as callous as yourself.

Are you Benny Paret's widow or something?

Just re-read your drivel. (Please don't condemn the hyphen, this was common when I was at University). What makes your obviously clouded mind think (I suppose I really shouldn't accuse you of actually 'thinking") that I have a grudge against Emile Griffith. I haven't had a single thought about him for 40 years (maybe an occasional passing one) and why would I have a grudge against him. You are losing your grip here old man..calm down...relax... take some drugs or whatever you do for entertainment.

I didn't know Paret either. All I recall other than his boxing, was that he was an illiterate sugar cane worker in Cuba, before he became a pro boxer. I've always believed that the massive beating he got from Gene Fullmer just before the Griffith fight was the real cause of his death. He had no business fighting a Patton tank like Fullmer. it was out of his division.

And as I recall further, the ref Ruby Goldstein, was criticised so severely that he retired on the spot. He was also partly to blame. he was a top class boxer but he slipped up badly here.

[ßringer]

I can truthfully say that I don't know what you are trying to prove here. And I don't want to bother trying. It's too obtuse and has moved away from the points originally under attack.

Give it up and do yourself a favour. I believe that the medical opinion is that it's far worse to lose someone you've known most of your life than a parent you never knew. To grieve over the latter is pure conjecture, except in extreme cases where the grown son or daughter is otherwise emotionally/mentally unbalanced. Don't blame me for the opinions of those who profess to know.

I've actually heard several people who never knew either their mother or father, say something like this. Why should I not believe them.

Look at this crotchety fossil still rambling on in an incoherent stream of verbal deviation. ****ing hell, getting this senile relic to stick to point is proving to be almost as difficult a task as getting his ancient body out of bed and dressed in the morning.

Edgar (****, even your name sounds antiquated), I assure you I'm not trying to "prove" anything other than the fact that you're a decrepit and acrimonious dip**** who is completely incapable of responding to anything positively.

I've already summed you up quite succinctly with my original response to you in this thread, any subsequent replies have just been to tug at your string so that I could take a step backward, watch your blood pressure rise, and laugh in amusement.

You're a very depressing case study.

[ßringer]

Mark, I like that beautiful picture you have there. One of them reminds me of a girl in Panama who was trying hard to marry me about 3 years ago.

[edgarg]

Look at this crotchety fossil still rambling on in an incoherent stream of verbal deviation. ****ing hell, getting this senile relic to stick to point is proving to be almost as difficult a task as getting his ancient body out of bed and dressed in the morning.

Edgar (****, even your name sounds antiquated), I assure you I'm not trying to "prove" anything other than the fact that you're a decrepit and acrimonious dip**** who is completely incapable of responding to anything positively.

I've already summed you up quite succinctly with my original response to you in this thread, any subsequent replies have just been to tug at your string so that I could take a step backward, watch your blood pressure rise, and laugh in amusement.

You're a very depressing case study.

Bringer I'm glad to see that you are still full of pep, although you are descending further into crudities that do not do you credit. Maybe that's your real level. I wonder why you creepers always become foul when you can't successfully conclude an argument. I discuss on the facts. You rant on the very crude and imaginary aliments that you wish I had. Why I can't satisfy your wishes in in the Creators Hands, not yours.

You have the chutzpah to try to show me how to write English which is the funniest thing that's happened today. A semi-literate like you.... Ah well, at least you're full of "confidence"(??) you're full of something anyway.

And the original word is still "nincumpoop" originally written "nin-cum-poop". The publishers and readers (I mean the first people who read over the submitted books before publication) were very particular to get it right, so much so that it is rare to find an error in any 19th century publication. Philology was a respected profession. Your spelling is an American degeneration of the original English word. but don't despair, keep trying.

If you can't stand it you can always shut up and crawl away.

[NachoMan]

More please.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by edgarg View Post
Paret's son coming on at the end of the video should have shown everybody that it was just more PR.

This comment reveals a lot about what kind of repugnant human being you must be in real life if, when confronted with the images of two very wounded men burying the hatchet with one another in an attempt to close decades old wounds, you sat there going "yeah, this is just public relations garbage."

I pity your family.

Was just gonna say basically the same thing. Edgarg definitely a lowlife.

[PunchyPotorff]

Don't show yourself to be more of a fool than you already have in the past. My comment was purely to criticise the film makers' intrusion of 1930s Hollywood sick-making rubbish..

Or like that 30 min. show which was popular in Griffiths early years.....was it "This is your Life" or some crap like that, where a former celebrity is pushed on stage and one by one his early life acquaintances are awkwardly brought out. You can see the guy cringing as the show is ongoing, and then as the "piece de resistance" they drag an unwilling former partner that he had a bitter and lasting enemity with about 40 years and they are forced to kiss and make up.before a drooling audience. Sickening, I was always sorry for them

But audiences LOVED it, They got vicarious thrills from the obvious embarrassment with which the whole show was flooded.

You seemed to ignore my comments on his boxing, most of which I actually saw at teh time they took place ....

Didn't Griffith have very bad Dementia Pugiltica for many years. That must have been what he died from. He paid the price for ring glory.

Wow, what a pathetic piece of work you are. And as noted in the documentary (which you SAID you watched), the beating he took in '92 is the reason he developed dementia. He didn't have it before then. As for your analogy of the 60s TV show being like the Emile documentary, that's just bone headed ignorance on your part.

[Frank Ducketts]

One of the craftiest fighters who ever lived.