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  • #11
    This site is everything wrong with boxing... The people who post on these forums should be the most progressive in terms of wanting change in the sport, change for the better and instead 9 out of the ten posts above me are consigning this BS. "He should've gotten up at 8" GTFOH !!!

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    • #12
      They had video replay in the Murray v Martinez fight, it didn't matter, they just favored the home fighter anyway.

      Here what Lyle overlooks is that Scott clearly wasn't keen to continue. Anyone that wants to fight doesn't leave it until 9.3 secs to get up and they certainly make a lot more fuss than he did when counted out.

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      • #13
        I agree video replay would be useful for confirming the causes of cuts, but I don't see how it can be compatable with the knockdown situation.

        So when a knockdown happens, are you going to pause the fight to establish it is legimate? Won't that give guys extra time to recover? Oh, you don't want to pause a fight, then how do the judges get to take it into account for scoring? A knockdown changes a 9-10 round to 10-8. Will the judges have to wait to be told if KDs were real or not then change their scores? Sounds like a recipe for confusion - and where there's confusion, there's corruption.

        The problem here was the referee not keeping a cool head and completing the 10 count as he should do then making his decision. He made a decision at 9; Scott stands up as the referee initiates the wave off. If a guy isn't laid out cold or really badly hurt, the referee is obligated to complete the count. I have little sympathy for Malik Scott getting up so late but this was really poor officiating.

        I don't think it changed the outcome of the fight. I don't see a point in a rematch until Scott actually mixes it with a higher class of fighter on a regular basis.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
          They had video replay in the Murray v Martinez fight, it didn't matter, they just favored the home fighter anyway.

          Here what Lyle overlooks is that Scott clearly wasn't keen to continue. Anyone that wants to fight doesn't leave it until 9.3 secs to get up and they certainly make a lot more fuss than he did when counted out.
          I think Scott was contemplating if to continue or not. He was badly hurt, but it was for the first time in the fight...

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          • #15
            Based on when he stood and his demeanor afterwards, I think Scott quit. Or maybe the ref saw something in his eyes that suggested Scott wasn't interested in continuing.

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            • #16
              the instant he started getting up the ref started waving his arms. it's called corruption, and what happened to the good old 20 count like in the derrik gainer-freddie norwood fight?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                the instant he started getting up the ref started waving his arms. it's called corruption, and what happened to the good old 20 count like in the derrik gainer-freddie norwood fight?
                I guess after saying 'nine' the ref felt he could wave it off at any time, after all 10 comes after 9 which means you're counted out.

                The ref was obviously over-keen on waving the fight off but why did Scott wait until 9.something to get up? that question also needs to be addressed.

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                • #18
                  Good old Lyle F; defending the American heavyweight scene. Tony T other week was dubbed best around bar the Klits (forgetting Haye, etc). This week finding an excuse for Chisora winning.

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                  • #19
                    Don't be daft

                    Boxing really doesn't need instant replays. How hard is it for a ref to count to 10? He said 9 as Malik started to get up, my guess is he figured he was in no shape to continue, and that's a call he's allowed to make. What you need is better refs, better judges and less corruption and bribary from promoters. You need a single sanctioning body that controls what happens rather than several bodies and several promoters all obsessed with one thing only: making money. Those people, as well as TV stations, are the ones who can change things, but they don't care, they like money $$$$$$$$$.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                      Based on when he stood and his demeanor afterwards, I think Scott quit. Or maybe the ref saw something in his eyes that suggested Scott wasn't interested in continuing.
                      i with you on this.

                      he wanted out

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