Just watched Chisora vs Malik Scott. The ref stopped it even though...

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  • Humean
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    #31
    The ref was perhaps a couple of hundreds of a second too early with waving it off at 10 but his count from 5 to 9 was actually quite slow and you do not start getting up at 9. No controversy here, Scott either quit or was confused from being disoriented. Either way Scott did not handle the situation well.

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    • Jarlaxle
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      #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      My impersonation of the ref:

      5.....6....7....8....910!
      This. It should be ruled a TKO.
      Scott had a false sense of security because he wasnt on a knee. He was crouching so at 9 he popped up quick.

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      • croz
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        #33
        see 14:45 on Wlad vs Mormeck. The ref stops it on the 8 count even though Mormeck stands up. It's pretty common for a ref to stop it if he deems a fighter unable to continue. Really people should know better.

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        • daggum
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          #34
          the instant scott starts to get up he starts waving it off. it didnt matter what number he was on. corruption. he clearly didn't reach the count of 10 and he clearly didn't look to see if scott was able to continue. he just stopped it. this ref will be seen a lot more in warren events. i guarantee he will be the ref for cleverly-kovalev.

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          • ukboxingfan1981
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            #35
            Originally posted by DosRounds
            It is no joke. Why else did the ref stop the fight when Scott beat the count. He looked perfectly fine when he got up as well and could have continued. I wanted Chisora to win the fight but I didn't want it to end like that.
            Honestly bro I'm with you on the way the fight ended. It should definitely not have ended like that, the ref ****ed up for sure but I don't think there was anything sinister going on.

            I can give you 3 more reasonable explanations than the Ref had a bet on...

            1. The referee got over excited and made a mistake.

            2. He [Ref] decided Scott had had enough and waved it off (again a mistake but perhaps he feels he can justify it - long wait to stand, blurry eyes?? who knows!)

            3. Scott made some kind of gesture (or spoke) to indicate he didn't want to continue.

            I think Scott should have just known better than to stay down that long, as you said he didn't appear hurt and the punch mostly glanced off anyway so why did he stay on his knee for so long? only he knows that but he didn't help his case.

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            • DosRounds
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              #36
              Originally posted by ukboxingfan1981
              Honestly bro I'm with you on the way the fight ended. It should definitely not have ended like that, the ref ****ed up for sure but I don't think there was anything sinister going on.

              I can give you 3 more reasonable explanations than the Ref had a bet on...

              1. The referee got over excited and made a mistake.

              2. He [Ref] decided Scott had had enough and waved it off (again a mistake but perhaps he feels he can justify it - long wait to stand, blurry eyes?? who knows!)

              3. Scott made some kind of gesture (or spoke) to indicate he didn't want to continue.

              I think Scott should have just known better than to stay down that long, as you said he didn't appear hurt and the punch mostly glanced off anyway so why did he stay on his knee for so long? only he knows that but he didn't help his case.
              What about being biased in favour of the home fighter? Being in the game for so long Scott should have known to get up earlier. You are right that only he knows why he didn't

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              • Jam Jars
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                #37
                Tony Grano ‏@granoboxing 20h
                @BoxingOpinions1 Every pro fighter knows if u go down u have until the count of 8 to get up if u let it get to 9 the ref is going to stop it

                Tony Grano ‏@granoboxing 21h
                @BoxingOpinions1 If the Fighter let's the count get to 9 it usually means the fighter wants out of the fight.

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                • Jam Jars
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by croz
                  see 14:45 on Wlad vs Mormeck. The ref stops it on the 8 count even though Mormeck stands up. It's pretty common for a ref to stop it if he deems a fighter unable to continue. Really people should know better.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGE48fUy-CM
                  Yes, there was a thread with about 50 posters saying the ref must say 10 before stopping the fight last night. Which is wrong.

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                  • ukboxingfan1981
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DosRounds
                    What about being biased in favour of the home fighter? Being in the game for so long Scott should have known to get up earlier. You are right that only he knows why he didn't
                    4. Ref was biased in favour of the home fighter

                    Definitely a possibility. My point was that saying the Ref was ******** on the fight was highly unlikely, or at least there were more plausible alternative.

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