Remember all the Ajose praise?

[samouraï]

Styles make fights, and Lucas has beaten fighters better than Ajose (whether he got the decision or not) so it doesn't really matter. Peterson was clearly better than Ajose and he sparked him the **** out with ease.

Also folks, you might be setting yourself up if Danny Garcia can't even give Matthysse as competitive a fight as Ajose did. Then what will that make Garcia?

[bojangles1987]

I don't remember Ajose tagging Matthysse. Also to point out, Judah got Garcia hurt in the last few rounds. Something never happened to Matthysse. Quit the hate on Matthysse and Garcia. It's a 60/40 fight. I got Matthysse.

He got some combos in on him, but nothing that bothered Lucas at all. That fight is memorable for the beating Ajose took, and nothing else. Seeing all these other fighters going down like they are, it makes you wonder how the hell Ajose took those punches for 10 rounds.

[_original_]

Styles make fights, and Lucas has beaten fighters better than Ajose (whether he got the decision or not) so it doesn't really matter. Peterson was clearly better than Ajose and he sparked him the **** out with ease.

Also folks, you might be setting yourself up if Danny Garcia can't even give Matthysse as competitive a fight as Ajose did. Then what will that make Garcia?

Good perspective.

[Cutthroat]

Matthyse fans keep saying styles make fights, but will they acknowledge Peterson was tailor made for Matthyse? Down against Ortiz, Bradley, Khan etc. and that was when he was STILL on steroids, which turn ordinary to extraordinary.

His win wasn't very impressive.

[PurePugilist216]

For all the hating I've done on Garcia, it does get to me when the Khan fight is called lucky. You can clearly see what Garcia was doing on rewatch, even if you missed it the first time. Besides, it was 2 good rounds. If we went off two good rounds, Judah was better than Mayweather.

Very well said man, Its refreshing to interact with a Matthysse fan that isn’t crazy and thinks everything the man does is divine.

[PurePugilist216]

the ajose win looked good because ajose looked like a potential top level talent. his resume was pure garbage going into the fight. truth is he never became a top level talent so it's not a very good win. you can't base things off potential unless you are a mayweather fan or some goofball.

Yup, to the fanboys like Mannie Phresh all you have to do is lose every rounds to Lucas and you’re a great fighter, meanwhile they hate the guys who go the distance with him. Matthysse fans have to be the some of the most dumb to grace boxing scene. In my opinion they have exceeded the *******s and are on the same level as the Flo-mos

[Frank Ducketts]

Matthyse fans keep saying styles make fights, but will they acknowledge Peterson was tailor made for Matthyse? Down against Ortiz, Bradley, Khan etc. and that was when he was STILL on steroids, which turn ordinary to extraordinary.

His win wasn't very impressive.

He was tailormade for Matthysse. Once he got hit, he got intimidated too. Once you are able to take Matthysse's shots, he becomes very ordinary. I'm not sold on him, Ward, GG, Thurman, Chavez Jr, Fury, and Russell Jr.

[PurePugilist216]

Lundy gives most problems at 135-140 especially when he has it going like he had it going against Ajose.

Lundy problem is consistency but when he is boxing and fighting smart...it is not too many fighters he CAN'T out Box in and aorund his Division.

Was Ajose expected to beat Lundy? Because I sure did not expect him to and I damn sure did not expect it to be easy against Lundy.

So no Ajose is not all of a Sudden a BUM and nor did he lose to a Bum last night. Unlike others he just so happen to take on two tough fighters back to back instead of trying to rebound against a Winnable Bum like most fighters do!

And yes I give Danny Garcia a STRONG CHANCE to beat Matthysse. It is all about him fighting smart, if he fights like he did the first half of the Zab fight he can out-box Matthysse

I didn’t expect him to beat Lundy, Lundy has talent and always has, what he needs is discipline and and a stronger chin. But I knew Ajose had nothing on him, he’s not faster, stronger or a better boxer. Like I said its funny the Matthysse fans praise a man who took a beating for 10 rounds, yet hate guys like Judah and Alexander who went the distance and gave Matthysse a lot of problems. They’re are backward fanboys

[PurePugilist216]

They once said Garcia was ducking Ajose like he was some type of cannon SMH. Ajose was nothing but a bouncy fighter who can absorb allott of punches.

Haha, the Matthysse fanboys will say anything to make their guy look like p4p material. The same guy who struggled like hell with Zab, while Garcia dominated him.

Funny thing is, I don’t hate Matthysse, he’s good for boxing, strong and is exciting but his fans make it really tough to route for the guy with the nonsense that they speak

[PurePugilist216]

Lundy is underrated, I wouldn't call him a C+ fighter, he's definitely in the B class especially at 140. I saw an interview with him and he mentioned that he was killing himself to make 135 he ended up wilting against Beltran . He looks a lot better at this weight class and he only lost to Viktor Postol who is undefeated...

I love Lundy man, speak to him on twitter all the time, real cool guy, but he has lost to lesser fighters, and has to prove he is in the b class. B class is for like Robert Guerrero, Victor Ortiz, Devon Alexander etc… Lundy is not with them and might never be. But a few more good wins and will be.