New Rivalry? Cuba vs Mexico

[ElMeroChingon]

LOL

The next one is going to be Mexico vs Argentina, the styles mesh well, and they have fans to support a rivalry.

this thread is a joke.

Mexico vs Cuba? Lol yeah sure buddy.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Oh, and until Cubans support boxing and build and maintain a following where they would travel to either coast to support their fighter I doubt they would supersede/overshadow a boxing rivalry in which spanned decades between Mexico and PR.

Mexico and PR has set the president to cultural rivalries and forever made a lasting mark on this sport.

Cuba has a LONG way to go...

You're right about one thing, Cuba has a long way to go.

But cultural rivalries existed well before Mexico or Puerto Rico even became a factor in boxing. There were Italian/Irish rivalries, and the like. The precedent (not "president") was set long ago.

[HanzGruber]

LOL

The next one is going to be Mexico vs Argentina, the styles mesh well, and they have fans to support a rivalry.

this thread is a joke.

Mexico vs Cuba? Lol yeah sure buddy.

theres as many cubans in the top 10 p4p as there are mexicans

[ElMeroChingon]

theres as many cubans in the top 10 p4p as there are mexicans

Yeah sure, you could say that about more than one country, and countries that have the fighting style and actual fan bases to support a rivalry, What makes Cuba so special? because you want it to?

[ElMeroChingon]

On top of that, Cubans are still in cuba, how is that going to work out?

[jri9d0]

You're right about one thing, Cuba has a long way to go.

But cultural rivalries existed well before Mexico or Puerto Rico even became a factor in boxing. There were Italian/Irish rivalries, and the like. The precedent (not "president") was set long ago.

BUT, the thread is in reference to Mexico/Cuba and right now the only other ethnic group that would be on par to justify a rivalry with Mexico would be PR despite PR's crappy output as of late...

My whole argument is that it takes more than just a few sporadic fights between two ethnic groups that would constitute a justified rivalry. Any time a fight between Mexico and PR transpires it is not only a fight it is a full fledged event and sometimes spectacle that is talked about YEARS after the fact (i.e. Tito/DLH/Tito/Vargas Rosario/Chavez and so on)

Couple this with the following both ethnic groups bring in where they would travel ANYWHERE to support their fighters.

Now that's passion we have yet to see from Cuban fighters and moreover their fans outside of Miami.

[Light_Speed]

Yes but we will see more Cuban fighter leave and train with pro trainers.

Yes, the generation produced by the current amateur system, but what about the next generations? Are they going to take up boxing on their own, without being selected as kids and placed into training centers?

[CubanGuyNYC]

BUT, the thread is in reference to Mexico/Cuba and right now the only other ethnic group that would be on par to justify a rivalry with Mexico would be PR despite PR's crappy output as of late...

My whole argument is that it takes more than just a few sporadic fights between two ethnic groups that would constitute a justified rivalry. Any time a fight between Mexico and PR transpires it is not only a fight it is a full fledged event and sometimes spectacle that is talked about YEARS after the fact (i.e. Tito/DLH/Tito/Vargas Rosario/Chavez and so on)

Couple this with the following both ethnic groups bring in where they would travel ANYWHERE to support their fighters.

Now that's passion we have yet to see from Cuban fighters and moreover their fans outside of Miami.

You made a couple of statements. I agreed with one and corrected another.

Cuba is still on lockdown, after over half a century. It's tough to form rivalries and develop fan-bases when well under two million of your people are in the U.S. There's no point in the comparisons you're making.

As we agree, Cuba has a long way to go.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Yes, the generation produced by the current amateur system, but what about the next generations? Are they going to take up boxing on their own, without being selected as kids and placed into training centers?

That's what I've been saying. But the kids that decide on their own to become fighters...watch out!

[jri9d0]

You made a couple of statements. I agreed with one and corrected another.

Cuba is still on lockdown, after over half a century. It's tough to form rivalries and develop fan-bases when well under two million of your people are in the U.S. There's no point in the comparisons you're making.

As we agree, Cuba has a long way to go.

And of the many Cubans who defected to the U.S many of whom where athletes (including boxers) were they on lockdown to?

Are there no boxing gyms in Miami? Hell, after 40 + years of communist rule in Cuba and its many defectors all you have to speak of is Joel Cassamayor?

Do Cubans support boxing or not?

Rivalry? According to whom????