Lomachenko Wants Salido vs Cruz Winner

[BennyST]

Lomachenko was in the US a couple weeks ago and has finally released a statement saying that he has a contract and is just reviewing all the legal fine print and expects to sign it in a week or two. He plans to make his pro debut in mid to late October at 126lbs and said he would like to fight the Salido vs Cruz winner if they're open to fighting him.

http://www.boxingnews.com.ua/ru/novo...ja-salido-krus

He didn't name a promoter but the WBO title fight between Salido vs Cruz is October 12th on the Marquez vs Bradley Top Rank HBO card. I wonder if he'll make his debut on that undercard to try to set up a title shot against the winner of that fight?

Interesting note : Saensak Muangsurin holds the record for winning a world title in only his 3rd pro fight. If Lomachenko got that fight and won a title in his 2nd pro fight it would be a new record.

Muangsurin had been fighting long, hard pro level Muay Thai fights since an early age and had fought a lot more at that type of level before turning pro as a boxer.

It will be well before that

If he really tries to do it like that, he and his management team would be utterly idiotic. Even for those Thai guys who grew up fighting pro level, long fights with no protective gear from such an early age, it's very rare for them to have beaten top level champs so early.

Someone without that experience would really, really struggle. Think Rigondeaux against Cordoba in his 6th or 7th fight or whatever. Despite not long after dominating the P4P HOFer Doniare, he barely got past a guy who had never been able to get past the Interim belt level and had lost his biggest fights against the top guys. All because he'd never been past 8 rounds, and that only once. Against crafty vets that don't give in after a few hard shots, it's a whole different game. As seen with Rigondeaux, a guy with 400 amateur fights and more pro fights than 1 or 2, stuff like that throws you completely.

Lomachenko jumping in to fight someone like Salido, even though he's now past his best and on a steep decline, he'd take Vasyl into deep waters in his first ever fight, maul, brawl, headbutt, and probably land some huge right hands. It would be ridiculous for them to do it. The risk of a KO loss is very, very high.

[Mikhnienko]

Muangsurin had been fighting long, hard pro level Muay Thai fights since an early age and had fought a lot more at that type of level before turning pro as a boxer.

If he really tries to do it like that, he and his management team would be utterly idiotic. Even for those Thai guys who grew up fighting pro level, long fights with no protective gear from such an early age, it's very rare for them to have beaten top level champs so early.

Someone without that experience would really, really struggle. Think Rigondeaux against Cordoba in his 6th or 7th fight or whatever. Despite not long after dominating the P4P HOFer Doniare, he barely got past a guy who had never been able to get past the Interim belt level and had lost his biggest fights against the top guys. All because he'd never been past 8 rounds, and that only once. Against crafty vets that don't give in after a few hard shots, it's a whole different game. As seen with Rigondeaux, a guy with 400 amateur fights and more pro fights than 1 or 2, stuff like that throws you completely.

Lomachenko jumping in to fight someone like Salido, even though he's now past his best and on a steep decline, he'd take Vasyl into deep waters in his first ever fight, maul, brawl, headbutt, and probably land some huge right hands. It would be ridiculous for them to do it. The risk of a KO loss is very, very high.

I'm aware. Muay Thai fights are 5 rounds by the way so that experience wasn't any help with 12 rounds or the fact that it's a completely different sport. Muangsurin in 3 and Payakaroon in 4 fights did it though. Big accomplishments require big risk and Vasyl and his Father are confident. I'll be watching and so will you.

[any craic lad?]

Way too soon in my opinion against someone as relentless as Salido maybe have 6 pro fights before hand get in ten rounders and 12 rounders before fighting someone like a Salido

[Russian Crushin]

they are completely different sports. that's not at all a valid comparison. there's a reason top amateurs don't jump in with top 50 calibur opponents right away, and it's because they can lose.


the top amateurs do not automatically make top pros, especially today. just look at the olympics and world championships, and the world champions they produce. sure, some of the best make it, but most of them do not pan out into world champions. the sports are far too much unalike.


lets see how lomachenko does in a 10 or 12 round fight before we break out the annointing oil.



just think about how bad rigondeaux looked until he got in a few pro fights. the guy almost got knocked out by ricardo cordoba's dead body.

They aren't completely different sports. Fighting top amateurs is a much bigger challenge then fight bums that don't even know how to fight, it prepares you much much more for a top pro then Koing a guy who doesn't throw back in 50 secs. Most of the technique and ability is built in the gym for a pros few years, not In the ring against nobodies. So many fighters fight years unchallenged and then when they fight someone with a pulse, they fold

Rigo-cordoba looked horrible because both are tentitive counter punchers

[Chrismart]

Lomachenko has talent for sure, and could make waves in the pro game. A fight against someone relentless like Salido to start things off with , may well backfire though.

[Kagami Taiga]

i dont think boxing is that easy. in fact i know its not. u work your way up to 12 rounders. u dont jump in and swim. just not how it goes.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Well he faced the top amateurs in the world. It prepares him 100X more then fighting complete bums with records like 3-10 for 2 years that he completely destroys. Those amateurs he faced are probably as good as pros ranked in the 30s, maybe even better.

Only that worries me is it being a 12 round fight, since he's never even fought half of that against a relentless guy like Salido who never stops coming

You're right; but as I said before, these guys were fighting each other as amateurs. WSB appeals to cults and clans, which is a big part of boxing promotion. I don't think it does the fighters that much good.

And I agree with New England and BennyST, it's probably not a good idea for any amateur, not even Lomachenko, to jump straight into twelve rounders versus top pro opposition.

[GoldenGloveLove]

Loma and Rigo should be in a buddy cop movie!

[{Pito}]

Lomachenko was in the US a couple weeks ago and has finally released a statement saying that he has a contract and is just reviewing all the legal fine print and expects to sign it in a week or two. He plans to make his pro debut in mid to late October at 126lbs and said he would like to fight the Salido vs Cruz winner if they're open to fighting him.

http://www.boxingnews.com.ua/ru/novo...ja-salido-krus

He didn't name a promoter but the WBO title fight between Salido vs Cruz is October 12th on the Marquez vs Bradley Top Rank HBO card. I wonder if he'll make his debut on that undercard to try to set up a title shot against the winner of that fight?

Interesting note : Saensak Muangsurin holds the record for winning a world title in only his 3rd pro fight. If Lomachenko got that fight and won a title in his 2nd pro fight it would be a new record.

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[{Pito}]

They aren't completely different sports. Fighting top amateurs is a much bigger challenge then fight bums that don't even know how to fight, it prepares you much much more for a top pro then Koing a guy who doesn't throw back in 50 secs. Most of the technique and ability is built in the gym for a pros few years, not In the ring against nobodies. So many fighters fight years unchallenged and then when they fight someone with a pulse, they fold

Rigo-cordoba looked horrible because both are tentitive counter punchers

Green K for common sense and respect for thebtalent in elite amateurs.