this is the Manny that floyd refused to fight without phony random testing

[maguirre]

When Floyd found out that Pac was calling his testing bluff, Floyd ran away and befriended Don King. He came back demanding $100 million. Damn Pac. Why didn't you call his first bluff right away, doe? Mayflower would have been exposed early. hehe...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Both guys are to blame for the fight not getting made,,,,,

But i do put more of the blame on floyd for this simple reason.

1. when he returned from his "retirement" he targeted JMM, manny's rival just to hype a manny fight down the road,,,
2. Things looked to be all set but then manny destroyed cotto, and floyd sr said no way and floyd listened....
3. When your are the biggest money guy in boxing like oscar, srl, tyson, ali, with that drawing power you can make any fight you can want,,,, Ali got the foreman and frazier fights, SRL got the duran, hearns, hagler fights, Oscar had tito, shane, vargas,hopkins, floyd, manny. Floyd never put the public pressure on manny and arum to get the fight done...
4. When you are the top draw #1 fighter in the world, floyd could have used the media to pressure arum and manny to fight,, but he never did that, so i blame floyd,
5. He has said he is a rich coward, and wont fight the dangerous to your health type fights...

To be fair to floyd,, arum did come up with some dandy excuses like the outdoor stadium and the cut over manny's eye... And manny most likely was on some PEDs

But i still put the most blame on floyd,,, He is the money$$ man in boxing and call the shots....

[malcolm]

End this madness.

Pacquiao was/is a great fighter. He simply is not on Mayweather's level. Period.

Ask JMM for further reference.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Pacquiao requesting Rios to do testing exposes all his excuses as BS.

Are you sure it was Manny's camp who asked for testing? Or was it the promoter? Wait, maybe it was Rios' camp! One thing's for sure, Memo's in the picture which got everyone scrambling for extra drug testing!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

End this madness.

Pacquiao was/is a great fighter. He simply is not on Mayweather's level. Period.

Ask JMM for further reference.

I agree to a certain extent... I know you a huge floyd fan and i agree that floyd has superior skills

But dont use jmm as a reference because triangle theories never work out..

Hopkins loses to taylor, pavlik destroys taylor,, Hopkins destroys pavlik

or better yet
Manny beats barrera, morales beats manny, barrera beats morales....

Styles make fights.....

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

End this madness.

Pacquiao was/is a great fighter. He simply is not on Mayweather's level. Period.

Ask JMM for further reference.

The JMM who would be left in the dust by Bradley, the other Pacquiao victim?

[Downy_tax]

Why is Pacquiao requesting that Rios do a drug test?

Wasn't that something that kept the Mayweather fight from happening in the first round of negotiations?

[StarPower]

Both sides are dug in. These threads arent changing anybodies mind. You either put the blame on one side or the other. But in my opinion you cant turn down a 50/50 split with a 14 day drug testing cutoff and convince me you want the fight. Nobody not named Oscar has ever gotten a 50/50 offer from Floyd.

[lets rumble]

Floyd is the worst thing to happen to boxing.

Pacquiao = a breath of fresh air he captured the casual fans with his foreign personality and carefree personality and Warrior give the fans their moneys worth style.

Floyd had to use a gimmick to sell he is the only boring fighter to ever be a huge PPV draw in history. Every other fighter who drew on PPV had exciting wars or delivered knockouts or had top fights.

Also Pacquiaos PPV drawing power is far more impressive than Floyds, Floyd said it himself how come these Americans like this Filipino but they dont even support me? Floyd is jealous.

Pacman is the biggest drawing non heavyweight foreign fighter in PPV history, no other foreigner did his numbers on ppv, and he isn't even a heavyweight.


Pacquiao sold fights because of his fighting style, Floyd sells fights by making people hate him to see if he finally loses and by attaching his name to Oscar De La Hoya, ARturo Gatti, and Manny Pacquiao to sell.

you are a complete fool ......your talking about a guy who is undefeated p4p ppv king of the sport.....
he made his name by being so slick with an arsenal of skills.
love him or hate him he will always turn bigger numbers than pac man .
get over it .
pacman was the one that stoped this fight when it originated by not taking the test.
when he finally agreed to take the test he demanded 50% of the purse yet has not turned the ppv numbers to deserve it ....
he took a lot less money to fight a lightweight in Marquez and got put to sleep.....
If pacman was serious about fighting Floyd he should of excepted the purse offered and if he wins offered Floyd the same back .....
why didn't he take it ???? cause he knows he would never have beat him

[lets rumble]

how is the outdoor stadium in vegas going .....
must be huge if it aint finished yet or is bob arum still drawing up the plans...