Legitimate excuses

[hectari]

You can't have it both ways. If you want to say Pac wasn't focused, talk about the gloves, training, diet, whatever that's fine... but then you cant talk like this is a prime Morales from 3 years ago as he clearly wasn't in top form or physical condition last night.

Erik morales said he was in the best shape of his life for this fight.

he made weight and he looked fit and ready to go he even dished out and fought the same like the first fight, the difference was pacman was determined and wasnt backing down.

[moy22487]

Yes he can and he solidified his argument with an absolute result.

KO for PAC.

if your going to say pacman was unfoucused and not give morales his credit for the first fight. why cant morrales say that all the wars morrales been in took it out of him and caught up 2 him

[AIR_KENG]

a lot of us PACFANS believed before the fight that EM can be koed, more so, when we saw the the pre fight prescon and the weigh-in, Em was so thin and light, he looked very vulnerable..

EM gotta make up his mind what weight to fight, if he maintianed his weight well during his rest period after this fight, i dont think it will be too hard for him to fight at 130 ...

good point... he should make up his mind fast if he wants to fight pac again to do what you said... he should maintain weight close to 130 if he wants to be in full force for a third match

[dep_violator]

if your going to say pacman was unfoucused and not give morales his credit for the first fight. why cant morrales say that all the wars morrales been in took it out of him and caught up 2 him

Your argument is a if, when, then, should have, would have, etc.

My argument is solid and simple and we it's backed up with an absolute result

Brutal KO for PAC.

[moy22487]

Your argument is a if, when, then, should have, would have, etc.

My argument is solid and simple and we it's backed up with an absolute result

Brutal KO for PAC.

the result of the first fight was a UD for morrales. pay attention to what im saying. if you say pacman lost the first one because he was unfocused that gives morrales fans(im not one of) they are allowed to say that the other fights he has had caught up 2 him. saying he is unfocused cheapens both there wins witch they both faught and urned

[AIR_KENG]

if your going to say pacman was unfoucused and not give morales his credit for the first fight. why cant morrales say that all the wars morrales been in took it out of him and caught up 2 him

there is a point of comparison, i think that's the difference... manny had excuses and adjusted in training camp, promoters and stuff and it really proved to be a factor as he displayed it in the rematch... erik on the other hand, can say he's tired from all the wars but we will not have any clear idea if that is true if he does not fight again with a top contender... not necesarily manny

[AIR_KENG]

saying he is unfocused cheapens both there wins witch they both faught and urned

good point... well, it's just pride bro... players and fans as well do not like to lose...

[eazy_mas]

Excuse is just another part of failure.

People give themselve an excuse is because they dont wanna feel bad about themself.

As for Morales I think he will stop for a while. He is recovering not from the 2 KOs but the psychological shock of them. Imagine a guy never been KO then he is KOed twice in one match.

[Dirt E Gomez]

if your going to say pacman was unfoucused and not give morales his credit for the first fight. why cant morrales say that all the wars morrales been in took it out of him and caught up 2 him

That's all I've been trying to say the past 2 nights. Neither should be discredited, but if you're going to you have discredit both, not just 1 of them.

[machotime]

Many fans belived manny had too many excuses during the first fight, and as a pacfan of course i believed that those were true. But can't ignore the fact that morales clearly won the first fight and i can't prove if it were really signifcant.

With "The Batte" in the bag and Manny scoring a convincing win over Erik, I am more lead to believe that those excuses were legitimate and those excuses played big against manny in the first fight. I am not taking anything from the win of erik but i say he did not beat the best pacman.

Same goes for morales here, he and his fans belive it is because of the wars that he has been into that made his body give up in this fight. Right now, IMO I am not buying it. If he goes back to the ring and makes a convincing comeback (like barrera did to him in their last fight), then the excuse is not real.

As for manny, he proved to most of us that he was distracted during the first fight. So many mistakes were made and cost him the fight.

IMO, those were legitimate excuses

Ofcourse you would believe Manny's excuses for the first loss and not EM's for the second fight,.....you are a Manny fan. I don't buy this distraction bullshi* a fighter must overcome adversity, if he can't overcome a cut, that is his own fault but not an excuse for losing the fight. The fact is that EM has one loss to Pacman, and Pacman has one loss to EM. They are both losses and both of them are legit losses. so please do not discredit EM's first clear win in the first fight.