Comments Thread For: Golovkin Does Not Expect Fireworks in Mayweather-Canelo

[JoeKidd]

Please name one legitimate fighter from 140-154 (not your delusional fantasy pick, Manny Pacquaio) who has a chance to beat the 36-year old, waaaay past his prime Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd does NOT fight. You need someone that can FORCE him to fight. If Canelo had a mean streak, he'd be a good bet. But Canelo takes what you give him. And Floyd gives nothing. Matthysse, Pacquiao, GGG...better odds to force him to exchange and putting a hurting. In bursts, Mosely & Cotto showed what is possible.

[PAC-BOY]

GGG knows what hes talking about. When has Floyd been in a exciting fight...most all of his fights are lacking luster! you never get what you pay for thats for sure!

[LoadedWraps]

Like Pac made DLH and Cotto look C level and Floyd made a meal of both. Had to adjust his future approach after washed up Cotto, more defense, more catchweights lol

Pac didn't make Oscar look C-level. Did you even watch the fight? laughable stuff, really. Oscar was over the hill when Floyd fought him, let alone Manny. At least speak facts if you are going to try and make a clever comeback to someone. He didn't make Cotto look like a C-level fighter either. Maybe Hatton. Manny has the better resume, but has not dominated somone like Floyd dominated Marquez in recent memory.

[T18Z]

Pac didn't make Oscar look C-level. Did you even watch the fight? laughable stuff, really. Oscar was over the hill when Floyd fought him, let alone Manny. At least speak facts if you are going to try and make a clever comeback to someone. He didn't make Cotto look like a C-level fighter either. Maybe Hatton. Manny has the better resume, but has not dominated somone like Floyd dominated Marquez in recent memory.

He made Cotto look C level, and Oscar. Did you even watch the fight? They were dominant performances, or wait, does a dominant performance only work when you're a slick, black boxer who doesn't push the action?

ZzZz.. cmon, give the guy his dues and remember Marquez came up 2 weight classes to fight Floyd and then was cheated out of another 2 pounds.

[Flash13]

Pac didn't make Oscar look C-level. Did you even watch the fight? laughable stuff, really. Oscar was over the hill when Floyd fought him, let alone Manny. At least speak facts if you are going to try and make a clever comeback to someone. He didn't make Cotto look like a C-level fighter either. Maybe Hatton. Manny has the better resume, but has not dominated somone like Floyd dominated Marquez in recent memory.

Are you suggesting manny didn't dominate oscar? That was a white wash. I don't really consider Floyd's performances dominating to be dominating you have to put the hurt on the other fighter which floyd doesn't do. A points win isn't dominating no matter how wide it is. Cottos face after the pacman fight was a very good example of a fighter dominated.

[HeroBando]

Pac didn't make Oscar look C-level. Did you even watch the fight? laughable stuff, really. Oscar was over the hill when Floyd fought him, let alone Manny. At least speak facts if you are going to try and make a clever comeback to someone. He didn't make Cotto look like a C-level fighter either. Maybe Hatton. Manny has the better resume, but has not dominated somone like Floyd dominated Marquez in recent memory.

D level then? I mean, it was more dominant than Floyd JMM, he made DLH quit on his stool and sent him into retirement, as an underdog.

Pac Cotto was also more dominant than Floyd Marquez. There's the stoppage, but he had Cotto on the run for like 6 rounds. Not so for the size handicapped Marquez, no running, just lunging.

[LoadedWraps]

Are you suggesting manny didn't dominate oscar? That was a white wash. I don't really consider Floyd's performances dominating to be dominating you have to put the hurt on the other fighter which floyd doesn't do. A points win isn't dominating no matter how wide it is. Cottos face after the pacman fight was a very good example of a fighter dominated.

Dominated yes, but for different reasons and in a different way than Floyd did to Marquez. I have never met a knowledgable fan or any fighter or trainer that ever thought Manny could beat a prime Oscar. Marquez wasn't exactly young either, but he still has it as a fighter at his age remarkably. If a points win isn't dominating no matter what to you then we won't ever see eye to eye on that aspect of boxing because to me outclassing someone with boxing is far more indicitive of skill than just chopping someone down with power shots. The latter is more impressive in a different way. They are equally spectacular depending on the appeal of the person. Different styles appease different people. In a way you are right, I never really thought of floyd dominating marquez as much as just schooling him in a boxing clinic. When I think of domination I would point toward Margarito vs Cotto I, or Marquez vs Katsidis, or Froch vs Bute.

D level then? I mean, it was more dominant than Floyd JMM, he made DLH quit on his stool and sent him into retirement, as an underdog.

Pac Cotto was also more dominant than Floyd Marquez. There's the stoppage, but he had Cotto on the run for like 6 rounds. Not so for the size handicapped Marquez, no running, just lunging.

I disagree. Stoppages are a dime a dozen in a fighters career, maybe we just analyze the sport differently but smothering someone with blows and outclassing someone with boxing finess and making them look amateurish are two different things. Oscar had no business in the ring anymore and Manny should have not been the underdog.

[HeroBando]

I disagree. Stoppages are a dime a dozen in a fighters career, maybe we just analyze the sport differently but smothering someone with blows and outclassing someone with boxing finess and making them look amateurish are two different things. Oscar had no business in the ring anymore and Manny should have not been the underdog.

Easy to say now. Should Salido have been underdog in Juanma 1? He was, a big one, you coulda cleaned up with this wisdom.

I don't really see how it gets more dominant that Pac DLH, it was a boxing exhibition. it wasn't a dime a dozen stoppage, it was a RSCO. Not only did Pac lose 0 rounds and barely get touched, he made him exit the sport in the most humiliating way possible, quitting vs a midget he cherrypicked. Remember he was gonna rematch Floyd (at 150 or 147?) in the same timeframe, so it's not like he was primed to retire.

[Main Source]

Floyd'll potshot and run and blame it on a broken hand even tho he has pillows on

Ala the Baldomir fight

He doesn't fight with Winning gloves. Grant are not pillows.

[Main Source]

Does anyone expect a Floyd fight to be fireworks? He has a brash personality to make up for a non-fan friendly style of fighting - the only real way you're going to succeed in the sport like that.

The excitement comes when his opponent starts to fight back, not when Floyd does something.

Not that any of that takes away anything from him

I grew up in the 90's with watching Mike Tyson and Jones Jr. knocking opponents out from left to right but I can still enjoy the finesse of Mayweather and Hopkins. After all, it is "boxing". To say that Mayweather isn't "fan-friendly" is a heavy generalization and which "fans" are you referring to exactly?