Maidana-Broner, Thurman-Soto Karass, Santa Cruz-Ceda RbR & Discussion

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  • Hougigo
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    #361
    Originally posted by PBP
    According to Steve Kim rumor is Maidana is 8 pounds over
    Hilarious since Broner looked like a Twinkie and Maidana in shape when they first started taking pics for the event

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    • KRITKL
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      #362
      Broner is going to land that is guarantee, the thing is I don't think Maidana is going anywhere.
      I haven't seen Broner every really use his legs, but If he moves just enough to keep Maidana from setting his feet to throw his power shots it should be easy work for AB. If not Maidana will land and could turn it into a dog fight, which would be his best chance to get the win.
      I think AB will try to box but find out it's harder then he thought it was going to be and exchange with MM and both will have their moments with AB winning a disputed decision.

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      • miniq
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        #363
        Originally posted by hougigo
        Hilarious since Broner looked like a Twinkie and Maidana in shape when they first started taking pics for the event
        Yup.

        Maidana should be re-hydrating to 155-156 ATLEAST, 8 pounds sounds perfectly normal. Boner was going from 130 to 146 when he fought at 130...

        The average is gaining 10 pounds after the weigh in. Some have pushed it to the extremes of 15-18 pounds (Broner, Rios, Chavez)

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        • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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          #364
          Originally posted by WARQUEZ
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          Originally Posted by thuggery

          Could be right, GBP does like to brag about "sold out" events yet they have their DJ still attempting to sell tickets

          I like that though. Give the people cheap entertainment and make it an event. GBP is doing the right thing.
          It's good for the sport cause theyre getting more exposure. But it's it good for GBP?


          Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

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          • mconstantine
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            #365
            Broner needs to watch out for Maidana's over hand right. Broner is open to that shot and Maidana throws a nasty one.

            If he can do that, he'll be good. I don't see too many guys near 147 that can have success standing in front of Broner. He's just too slick in the pocket. Maidana going to get beat the h3ll up.

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            • UTEP
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              #366

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              • AgainstTheRopes
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                #367
                Maidana already looks drained. If he misses weight, Garcia needs to fire Ariza on the spot.

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                • HanzGruber
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                  #368
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  According to Steve Kim rumor is Maidana is 8 pounds over
                  Maybe Kahn was telling the truth about losing 13 pounds a day before the weigh in lol

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                  • shenmue
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                    #369
                    Originally posted by HanzGruber
                    Maybe Kahn was telling the truth about losing 13 pounds a day before the weigh in lol
                    Garcia has told Kim since this twitter post was posted that he don't know where these rumors started from, if Garcia had to guess it was from team Broner. Maidana will make weight easy according to Garcia.

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                    • Chrismart
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                      #370
                      Frankie Gavin previews Saturdays fights with BoxNation :

                      "Broner versus Maidana is a really fascinating fight. It's possible the Broner could make Maidana look a bit of a plodder, slow and ******. But I think the Argentinian has got every chance. Broner looked crap against Malinaggi and Maidana will have tightened up since moving to the Garcias in Oxnard.

                      I've followed Broner pretty closely since he blitzed Jason Litzau inside a round on ESPN a couple of years ago. I've seen pretty much all his fights since then.

                      There's no denying that he's a great fighter. The question is, is he a great welter? He took a huge step up from 135 (lbs) to 147 and didn't look overly strong and powerful against Malignaggi. I think 140 could be his optimal weight right now.

                      Away from the ring, he's like an immature version of Floyd Mayweather. I go on him and off him as a person. Some of his showmanship is really funny but he can take things too far sometimes. I don't like him taking the mick and being disrespectful to fellow fighters whose ability level is far beneath his. But I thought he came across well on Showtime's All Access program, joking around.

                      There's plenty to admire about him as a fighter. He's so accurate with his shots and seldom wastes anything. Everything he throws is intended to land and hurt. I particularly like how he leans back then delivers that lead counter right hand.

                      Mind, from what I've seen so far I'm not sure his footwork is that great. He tends to walk forward and bully his opponent physically but I doubt very much whether he'll be able to do that against Maidana. I think Maidana will be physically stronger and the one on the front foot. I know Maidana's been on the floor a few times against Amir Khan and Victor Ortiz but I can't see him getting stopped by Broner.

                      I've seen a lot of Maidana too. He can definitely 'have it'! He's a rugged, bullying type but he's not a bad boxer either. I expect Maidana to be the bigger puncher in this fight - Broner's not a one punch finisher - and Maidana can do his damage with both hands; swinging left uppercuts and big right hands over the top. I think Broner will also find him very strong in the clinches.

                      On the downside, Maidana's not the quickest and isn't great defensively. Sometimes he switches over his feet and can be caught square on. We all saw how easily Deven Alexander managed to outbox him.

                      To give himself the best possible chance, he's going to need to get right on Broner and drag him into a war. And I wouldn't be massively surprised if that happens. Broner is a lazy fighter who likes to take his breaks, whereas Maidana can sustain a pretty high workrate.

                      It's possible Maidana could ruffle Broner out of his comfort zone and take over in the later rounds. Broner will enter favourite but I think Maidana has every chance.

                      Broner would be foolish to stand and trade with Maidana. To win, he'll need to box Maidana from the outside and hit him as he charges in. He needs to keep adjusting so that Maidana struggles to set himself. You can't hit a moving target as hard as you can hit a static one. If Broner can execute that, Maidana will get wilder and wilder. Then Broner can really capitalise and make Maidana look cumbersome, like Pacquiao did to Brandon Rios.

                      As yet, we've not really seen how Broner will respond once he gets pushed back.This fight should show us.

                      I'll go with Broner to come through a few sticky patches and win quite widely on points, something like 117-110. It's a fight I'm really looking forward to.

                      On the undercard we'll get a good look at Keith Thurman who the Yanks are raving about.
                      I saw his stoppage win over (Carlos) Quintana and his 12 round points win over Jan Zaveck who used to be the IBF champion.

                      Clearly, with 19 knockouts from 21 wins, he's a big puncher - dangerous with both hands - but other than that I don't really rate him from what I've seen. He's a good body puncher but his big hooks are pretty wild and he needs to learn to keep his hands up.

                      He hasn't got great ability. Defensively he's not all that and I don't think he can fight off the back foot. I'd definitely take a fight with him if it was offered to me.

                      Soto Karass has plenty of recognisable names on his record like Carson Jones, Mike Jones, Gabriel Rosado, Maidana, Selcuk Aydin and he had that great win against Andre Berto last time out.

                      I saw the fight with Selcuk and basically Aydin gave it away rather than Soto winning it. Aydin was very lazy and got outworked.

                      From what I've seen, that's Soto's strength. He's very tough, very busy and makes the opponent work hard. He's not the most gifted technically - he's very easy to hit, lacks speed and is quite old (31) - but he could outhustle Thurman.

                      Thurman is one of the biggest hitting welters but, for me, he's not in the top five ability wise. The real slick operators would outbox him all day long. I certainly think Kell Brook would beat him, provided Kell did the weight properly.

                      But Thurman - Soto should definitely be a good fight for the fans because neither shy away. Soto will need to get close and be busy, make Thurman miss, then make him pay. But I'll back the Yank to draw him on to his big bombs and stop him somewhere around the eighth or ninth."

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