Floyd should acknowledge Oscar

[FeFist]

always is someone who comes in posts something totally random, you won that award bud

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I don't think you know what random means. My response was deeply tied to the subject of Floyd not acknowledging De La Hoya. You can disagree with my points, but saying that I have been ''totally random'' is simply incorrect.

some of your points are very valid, yes hbo and showtime should thank floyd, he has made them money but floyd (he does this) also knows it works both ways, the guy always thanks his organizers.

That it works both ways is the point I was getting at. People don't say HBO/Showtime/Top Rank/GBP should thank Mayweather because there is an understanding that it is a mutually beneficial relationship ( at least with regards to them expressing gratitude), but when it comes to Floyd people overlook the fact that they are also benefiting from him. My argument wasn't that they should say thank you because I don't feel they should, I'm indicating the differing responses (which shows hypocrisy) to the parties involved.

floyd should have been grateful to oscar because without him, he would have earned the money he has early on and would potentially not be a ppv star now, it was oscar who made him a superstar, like oscar did with pac

Why should Floyd be grateful to Oscar? It's not as though Oscar brought in his routine figures, it exceeded his usual sales by about a million. People act as though Oscar got nothing out of fighting Floyd.

as for golden boy and top rank thanking floyd, urmm what? do you know top rank invested in floyd to build him up? it was a heck of a lot, why do you think bob hates him? he laid the groundwork, when he was ready to make his own money on floyd, the guy bailed on him, floyd used top rank

I don't think they should thank him, but as I said it is hypocritical for people to say Floyd should be grateful and they should not. Why? Because they have profited off of the man's labour. It goes back to what I said about there being a mutually beneficial relationship. Bob Arum didn't boost Floyd up out of the goodness of his own heart, he boosted him up because he could make a profit off of his services ( which he did). The same applies to GBP.

[Luilun]

Floyd should give Oscar credit his PPV success. Floyd always talks about other fighters become successful because of him. Floyd needed Oscar to become success. Before Floyd beat Oscar he was not a massive PPV star. Floyd's style is not exciting and people were not knocking down the door to see him fight.

One of Floyd's most masterful performances in my opinion was versus Gatti. Floyd was letting his hands go and throwing combinations. Floyd for the last several years just throws 1 or 2 punches at a time. Floyd should acknowledge without that Oscar fight it may have taken him a few more years to get to the level of PPV success that he always speaks of.

Without Oscar Floyd would probably have 2 to 3 losses because he would have had to fight some guys he hid from, would have had to fight guys in their prime, or a steroid juiced up Mosley

[KickAzz]

900k -1 mil is not flopping,

c'mon now, you know that fight didn't make 1 mil

Its DR J. dunking from the dotted line after just dunking from the free throw line. It's dr dre aftermath album after the chronic.

LOLs, comparing that PPV flop to DR J. and Dre? c'mon mang.

you didn't have your expectations met.

not my expectations, showtime's and gbp's expectations... showtime lost money on that ppv flop... showtime need 1.5 mil or something like that to break even

Can you imagine another ppv fight selling 900k with the a side doing virtually no promoting/marketing? Other than wlad/vitali I can't think of one.

I know it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to showtime that they lost money guaranteeing cherrypicker $30 mil for that ppv flop...

[The Big Dunn]

c'mon now, you know that fight didn't make 1 mil


LOLs, comparing that PPV flop to DR J. and Dre? c'mon mang.


not my expectations, showtime's and gbp's expectations... showtime lost money on that ppv flop... showtime need 1.5 mil or something like that to break even


I know it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to showtime that they lost money guaranteeing cherrypicker $30 mil for that ppv flop...

thats why i said 900k-1mil. somewhere inbetween.

again, floyd's "flop" is equal to his hatton "non flop." so you got the reference-we agree expectations weren't met, but that is different from a flop.

I don't know if its 1.5. I read 1.2. If it mattered to showtime they would've exercised tyhe out clause they had after the fight. But instead they went harder in promoting floyd canelo.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Floyd give credit?

[KillaMANE704]

He dnt need 2 cuz 4 da most part he made himself a huge star with his persona and 24/7. And why give thanks 2 a rival anyway...Oscar and floyd know wat it its..no need 2 go down dat road.

[prinzemanspopa]

Why should Floyd acknowledge Oscar? The fight did 2.4 million ppv buys which eclipses anything De La Hoya has ever done, if people were not blinded by their hatred, and influenced by their inner belief that a black man should constantly bow his head and be grateful for the things he worked to accomplished, they would realise that Mayweather contributed immensely to the fights success and his own success.

Floyd Mayweather is clearly the W.E.B. Du Bois of his era.

[dc3383]

He did thank Oscar at one of the pressers but I guess people didn't listen to that