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  • KickAzz
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    #21
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    i know your a floyd hater so its hard for you to admit that floyd is primarily responsible for his success. he made as much for Ghost as wlad and manny will make combined for their next fights. I know that pisses you off.
    Floyd does his job well, but without serious backing by GBP, Top Rank, HBO, Showtime... Floyd wouldn't have gotten where he has gotten.

    Just look at RJJ... RJJ arguably has better upside than Floyd in that RJJ was a lot flashier in the ring and had good power even at lt HW, but RJJ never signed with TR and so he was never built up to be the next SRR. But RJJ had serious HBO backing.

    If Cherrypicker didn't get help from TR, GBP, HBO, and Showtime, I doubt he'd be the where he is now.

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    • 110110110
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      #22
      Sooner or later people will come to realise that Floyd is class A sociopath, that dossent have a grian of empathy in his body.

      After his succes in boxing he has become somekind of greedy,egocentric monster that is completly striped of dignity and humility.

      Mike tyson is 100 times the man floyd is IMO

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      • ModernTalking
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        #23
        Floyd should give Oscar his due just like how he gave Manny his due. Floyd said Manny Pacquiao was a great fighter and a champion. He said Manny Pacquiao never used drugs and he's a clean fighter, also he's the fighter of the decade and I'm not and that's something I wish can happen to me.
        Last edited by ModernTalking; 07-05-2013, 10:47 AM.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #24
          Originally posted by retnuocllup
          Floyd does his job well, but without serious backing by GBP, Top Rank, HBO, Showtime... Floyd wouldn't have gotten where he has gotten.

          Just look at RJJ... RJJ arguably has better upside than Floyd in that RJJ was a lot flashier in the ring and had good power even at lt HW, but RJJ never signed with TR and so he was never built up to be the next SRR. But RJJ had serious HBO backing.

          If Cherrypicker didn't get help from TR, GBP, HBO, and Showtime, I doubt he'd be the where he is now.
          well thats for every large selling fighter. Fighters have backing from all these en****** and don't generate a 10th of what floyd, odh, or tyson did. SOrry dude it aint that easy.

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          • FeFist
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            #25
            Why should Floyd acknowledge Oscar? The fight did 2.4 million ppv buys which eclipses anything De La Hoya has ever done, if people were not blinded by their hatred, and influenced by their inner belief that a black man should constantly bow his head and be grateful for the things he worked to accomplished, they would realise that Mayweather contributed immensely to the fights success and his own success.

            At the end of the day if he wasn't who he is, if he didn't continue winning, if he didn't establish himself as the best pound for pound, networks and promoters wouldn't be eager to put him on TV. As much as they help Mayweather, he helps them. But you don't have individuals saying ''De La Hoya should thank Mayweather'' ''Top Rank should thank Mayweather'', ''HBO should thank Mayweather'', ''Showtime should thank Mayweather''. You actually have individuals supporting HBO bashing a man who earned them money, the same with Top Rank and De La Hoya.

            See threads like this as a subtle form of racism.

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            • DLT
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              #26
              lets also not forget that Oscar had a million fights. How many of his opponents became stars? Dont forget that part. He fought Mosley, etc... but I didnt see them become PPV stars

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                #27
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                well thats for every large selling fighter. Fighters have backing from all these en****** and don't generate a 10th of what floyd, odh, or tyson did. SOrry dude it aint that easy.
                like I said, floyd does his part, but he didn't get to the top alone.

                Originally posted by DLT
                lets also not forget that Oscar had a million fights. How many of his opponents became stars? Dont forget that part. He fought Mosley, etc... but I didnt see them become PPV stars
                Floyd does his job well to sell his PPVs. When he didn't help out the promotion against the Ghost, that PPV flopped.

                But again, in the case of Mosley didn't have a major promotional company behind him. When he finally was with GBP, he was already on the slide.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by retnuocllup
                  like I said, floyd does his part, but he didn't get to the top alone.



                  Floyd does his job well to sell his PPVs. When he didn't help out the promotion against the Ghost, that PPV flopped.

                  But again, in the case of Mosley didn't have a major promotional company behind him. When he finally was with GBP, he was already on the slide.
                  900k -1 mil is not flopping, Its DR J. dunking from the dotted line after just dunking from the free throw line. It's dr dre aftermath album after the chronic. you didn't have your expectations met.

                  Can you imagine another ppv fight selling 900k with the a side doing virtually no promoting/marketing? Other than wlad/vitali I can't think of one.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-05-2013, 11:09 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    Why should Floyd acknowledge Oscar? The fight did 2.4 million ppv buys which eclipses anything De La Hoya has ever done, if people were not blinded by their hatred, and influenced by their inner belief that a black man should constantly bow his head and be grateful for the things he worked to accomplished, they would realise that Mayweather contributed immensely to the fights success and his own success.

                    At the end of the day if he wasn't who he is, if he didn't continue winning, if he didn't establish himself as the best pound for pound, networks and promoters wouldn't be eager to put him on TV. As much as they help Mayweather, he helps them. But you don't have individuals saying ''De La Hoya should thank Mayweather'' ''Top Rank should thank Mayweather'', ''HBO should thank Mayweather'', ''Showtime should thank Mayweather''. You actually have individuals supporting HBO bashing a man who earned them money, the same with Top Rank and De La Hoya.

                    See threads like this as a subtle form of racism.
                    always is someone who comes in posts something totally random, you won that award bud

                    some of your points are very valid, yes hbo and showtime should thank floyd, he has made them money but floyd (he does this) also knows it works both ways, the guy always thanks his organizers.

                    who knows? maybe behind the scenes showtime and hbo give a big pat on the back? well maybe not showtime as floyd just lost them 15m but you get my point

                    floyd should have been grateful to oscar because without him, he would have earned the money he has early on and would potentially not be a ppv star now, it was oscar who made him a superstar, like oscar did with pac

                    it was passing of the throne to those two, both should be grateful

                    as for golden boy and top rank thanking floyd, urmm what? do you know top rank invested in floyd to build him up? it was a heck of a lot, why do you think bob hates him? he laid the groundwork, when he was ready to make his own money on floyd, the guy bailed on him, floyd used top rank

                    it was bobs fault as well, he clearly should have made the oscar fight AND had a better contract with floyd but floyd should be thankful to top rank, without them floyd would not be the star he was today

                    golden boy is odd, as I said before, these guys will be begging hbo to be back on their network, they are very odd, all they are knowing is letting floyd beat their guys and getting a small amount in return while al haymon gets around 15 percent of floyds purse, very odd indeed, there is a reason gb are losing money fast, how long will oscar last in cutting his losses?

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                    • Bigg Rigg
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                      #30
                      If it wasn't for the Oscar fight and the 24-7, Floyd wouldn't be a huge ppv star. His fights aren't entertaining to some. I like them but when we have fight parties, Floyd's fights are the lamest parties compared to all the other 1's we have. The majority of his fans like his personality, that he has money n big houses n cars. That's what they like. And that he's never lost, don't care who's he beat or fights just care that he's never lost. They wanna go with the guy who always wins maybe because they are losers in life. Lol

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