Cotto to Fight Marquez/Bradley Winner
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I don't subscribe to any of those points. I've seen the fights you mentioned, Cloud v Campillo was possibly the worst of the lot that you quoted but it was not worse than Bradley v Pac. Every single pundit, professional and judge who has spoken about the matter agrees. Only really hardcore Tim fans, which I'm assuming you are, think he won. I can't give Bradley more than 4 rounds...which rounds do you have him winning? The longer the fight went on, the more aggressive Pac got, the more he hit Bradley and the more Bradley looked to get away from punched rather than letting his own hands go.You must not have been watching much boxing(no offense)if you did not see a worst decision..Pwill Lara Martinez Cintron Cloud Campillo was all far(Far!!)worst decisions bro..I'm one who thought Bradley won,and I'd sit with anyone(and have done so)and show how I came to that conclusion..
Now where I agree with you at,is that Marquez if he can beat him without the out cry(which will be hard bro,Marquez is a legend even if Tim shuts him out I'm sure you'll have people saying Tim got a gift)then it would be the biggest win for Tim because of who Marquez is in the sport..
Now I don't think boxing fans are so clueless that just because JMM is a legend they will point to Bradley's win and call it s a gift unless it was legitimately close. Cloud v Campillo was a gift, you can even make arguments for Dirrel v Froch being a home town decision, the same may go for Khan v Peterson but none of those were as bad as the blatant robbery of Bradley/Pac. It really is as simple as that. If JMM/Bradley goes the same way, of course fans will be angry.
I personally think Bradley beats JMM fair and square unless JMM brings that HULK power with him.Comment
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My card was pretty simple tbh..I gave Bradley rds 1-3 and 9-12..If you go back and take a look at the rds I've mention they were very close rds..I also felt there were close rds all throughout the fight..I actually have a rd by rd somewhere on this damn site in an old thread..Maybe I'll try to dig it up in a lil while..I don't subscribe to any of those points. I've seen the fights you mentioned, Cloud v Campillo was possibly the worst of the lot that you quoted but it was not worse than Bradley v Pac. Every single pundit, professional and judge who has spoken about the matter agrees. Only really hardcore Tim fans, which I'm assuming you are, think he won. I can't give Bradley more than 4 rounds...which rounds do you have him winning? The longer the fight went on, the more aggressive Pac got, the more he hit Bradley and the more Bradley looked to get away from punched rather than letting his own hands go.
Now I don't think boxing fans are so clueless that just because JMM is a legend they will point to Bradley's win and call it s a gift unless it was legitimately close. Cloud v Campillo was a gift, you can even make arguments for Dirrel v Froch being a home town decision, the same may go for Khan v Peterson but none of those were as bad as the blatant robbery of Bradley/Pac. It really is as simple as that. If JMM/Bradley goes the same way, of course fans will be angry.
I personally think Bradley beats JMM fair and square unless JMM brings that HULK power with him.
I can't agree with you here man..Pwill vs Lara and Martinez vs Cintron(do you not remember Cintron was counted out bro)were far worst then Bradley Pac..If you put up a poll between the three fights Pac Bradley would not win..BTW Brian Kenny had Bradley winning bro..I guess he does not count as a professional tho??Mind you he had him winning live,and called the fight fair..More fair then HBO did..
At the end of the day your going to use poplar opinion for your argument..I'll use fact(as in fact Bradley did get the win)and that because he won the fight(regardless of opinion)in my book he deserves credit..His resume for his age is very good..I know Froch(Martinez too)is older but in boxing yrs he's is on the same pace as Bradley..I'd only put Froch Ward Mares and Martinez in the same place with Bradley as it stands right now..If that's not saying something I don't know what else to say bro..Comment
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I agree that pac Bradley isn't the worst recent robbery, in points it was Lara pwill and then Martinez had that fight stolen from him. However I still don't see how you gave round 2,3 or 9 to Bradley. Round 2 for sure was definately a pac round. The other 2 I need to watch that fight again to remember them exactly but pac hit Bradley with a huge left in round 2 that I remember. Bradley definately did not deserve that win tho. Nothing wrong with losing to pacman but he definately did. I still think Bradley beats marquez and will get his rematch to prove he can win definitively.My card was pretty simple tbh..I gave Bradley rds 1-3 and 9-12..If you go back and take a look at the rds I've mention they were very close rds..I also felt there were close rds all throughout the fight..I actually have a rd by rd somewhere on this damn site in an old thread..Maybe I'll try to dig it up in a lil while..
I can't agree with you here man..Pwill vs Lara and Martinez vs Cintron(do you not remember Cintron was counted out bro)were far worst then Bradley Pac..If you put up a poll between the three fights Pac Bradley would not win..BTW Brian Kenny had Bradley winning bro..I guess he does not count as a professional tho??Mind you he had him winning live,and called the fight fair..More fair then HBO did..
At the end of the day your going to use poplar opinion for your argument..I'll use fact(as in fact Bradley did get the win)and that because he won the fight(regardless of opinion)in my book he deserves credit..His resume for his age is very good..I know Froch(Martinez too)is older but in boxing yrs he's is on the same pace as Bradley..I'd only put Froch Ward Mares and Martinez in the same place with Bradley as it stands right now..If that's not saying something I don't know what else to say bro..Comment
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I gave rd two because no matter how hard the punch(unless it would have dropped Bradley)I can't score the rd for Pac..Bradley controlled pace that the rd was fought..Landed several shots to the body and head..It was a close rd,but not a clear Pac rd imo..Only clear rds for Pac were 4 and I believe 6(was that the rd where Pac caught Bradley in the corner and unloaded on his body?)imo..Rd 3 was more of the same bro,Bradley controlling the pace Pac not doing much but he was letting Bradley score on him..Rd 9 I thought Bradley(really for the first time)out fought Pac.It was my fav rd of the fight..Even tho 5 7 and 8 were very good rds for action(if my memory serves me correctly)..I agree that pac Bradley isn't the worst recent robbery, in points it was Lara pwill and then Martinez had that fight stolen from him. However I still don't see how you gave round 2,3 or 9 to Bradley. Round 2 for sure was definately a pac round. The other 2 I need to watch that fight again to remember them exactly but pac hit Bradley with a huge left in round 2 that I remember. Bradley definately did not deserve that win tho. Nothing wrong with losing to pacman but he definately did. I still think Bradley beats marquez and will get his rematch to prove he can win definitively.
There would have been no shame in Bradley losing to Pac bro,I'm a big Pac fan..I just did not see it that way,then the scores of some people is even more outrageous imo..I saw a good(tactical)fight,most say Pac was coasting lol..I don't know Pac to coast against any fighter..Comment
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Hey Rome I guess we'll agree to disagree. I just don't think Bradley won, his wins over Alexander, Abregu weren't so good either but he does have a decent resume. His fights with Peterson, Holt and Witter were good, considering how young he was at the time.
Bradley v JMM I hope is his coming out party, I really do.Comment
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I want the winner of Bradley/Marquez to face Floyd damnit. I guess with TR that is not going to happen.Comment
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