Comments Thread For: Canelo To Mayweather: I'm Not Cotto, Ortiz or Guerrero!

[Fish_Scotland]

Canelo can't do to Floyd what Malignaggi did to Broner. I don't think anyone can beat Floyd from the outside.

But he can copy Cotto's inside fighting or better yet try to be like Castillo on the inside. Go to the body early and often, hope that Mayweather drops his hands eventually, then at that point bring more punches up top.

He better be in good shape to do it all 12 rounds too.

This is the only game plan I think that even gives Canelo a shot. Problem being he's no engine, his already slow feet will slow further and he won't get near Mayweather. It's a shame really as their are certainly sign against RG that Floyd wanted longer breaks, happy to sit on the ropes etc so if Canelo could sustain it for 12 he could have the zip in his punches to trouble Floyd later.

This is not going to to be a close fight IMO though, I don't see what Canelo brings that troubles Floyd. Remember Floyd is the GOAT when it comes to match-making. He'll have took the Canelo fight knowing this, despite the assumption he's been forced into this fight. I'm sure his TV deal may have contributed to the fight being made but I can't see Floyd being worried.

As I don't think the above game plan can be executed by Canelo I think his only chance will be putting Floyd on ***** street with a flukey punch in the 1st half of the fight (you could outwork Canelo with 10 punches after the middle rounds). Even if he did land something big he'd have to jump all over him if it's not a KO and I could well see him gassing out even earlier.

[DLT]

I always disagree with the Mosley thing. What people dont remember about the Mosley fight is that it was the 1st time in years that Floyd came out like an aggressive Offensive fighter. The 2nd thing is that it was an inactive Mayweather which is why you saw both Shane & JMM catch him with one punch early. Then he works off the rust and they never land again.

Floyd is active now for the 1st time in over 5 years. He's also back with his dad so he's back to the more defensive style which is going to give you even less openings.

JLC may have had a good game plan but there are 2 things about that fight also. 1 is that Floyd was truly ****y and thought he couldnt be touched at that time. He doesnt take guys lightly anymore even if he still believes he cant be beat. 2nd is that it was a million years ago. Malignaggi says it best. People always bring up that fight like Floyd hasnt grown since then. He's physically way stronger than he was then and he's 10x smarter than he was then.

He's just an overall better fighter. Just because JLC did something over 10 years ago doesnt mean its going to work now. It wont. Its just like the Southpaw thing. Floyd is always going to have a harder time against Southpaws just like everyone in boxing does but he's still 10x better against Southpaws then he was years ago. You grow as a fighter and those same things that worked against you before dont work now

[Silky_Smooth]

No but you are getting your butt kicked

[turnedup]

Yeah I have to admit seeing Mosley land those punches and visibly hurting Floyd was shocking. I think Canelo's resume matters simply because he's going from fighting average 140 and 147 pounders to fighting an ATG. You have to fight the fights that prepare you for that. Whatever style Canelo' brings Mayweather has seen now can you say the same about Canelo? He hasn't fought one guy close to the level of Floyd. I'm not counting Canelo completly out but he has a hell of a mountain to climb on Sept 14th.

No doubt on the Mosley thing. I think the fact he's treated 147's like rag dogs factor in. Even his hits to the guard seem to hurt like a mofo, i'm not calling him a world ender but confidence plays a huge part into the fight game. I did see a side of him in the Trout fight I didn't think he had in him regardless of the stamina he switched it up so who knows what he's been working on but I agree september 14 will be a hugeeee test.

I always disagree with the Mosley thing. What people dont remember about the Mosley fight is that it was the 1st time in years that Floyd came out like an aggressive Offensive fighter. The 2nd thing is that it was an inactive Mayweather which is why you saw both Shane & JMM catch him with one punch early. Then he works off the rust and they never land again.

Let's just agree to disagree then bro...the punch has landed before that's the point. Mosley at his age landed it twice and Mosley as we all know is a high I.Q. fighter himself. Folks say he didn't land it again, hell he barely landed anything after the second one but can't change the fact those two landed. Joel Judah was a student of the game and Zab Judah was the first to land it. Now count the years between Judah and Mosley and the punch is still there? Listen is Floyd brilliant? Yes! Gifted beyond belief but if you are genuinely a student of the game you know every single fighter has one kryptonite, maybe it's a blindspot, maybe it's a grappler, maybe it's body shots but every fighter has one. Will this kid find it? Who knows..Are there too many chefs in the kitchen? Maybe. We shall see sept 14th.

[DLT]

No doubt on the Mosley thing. I think the fact he's treated 147's like rag dogs factor in. Even his hits to the guard seem to hurt like a mofo, i'm not calling him a world ender but confidence plays a huge part into the fight game. I did see a side of him in the Trout fight I didn't think he had in him regardless of the stamina he switched it up so who knows what he's been working on but I agree september 14 will be a hugeeee test.




Let's just agree to disagree then bro...the punch has landed before that's the point. Mosley at his age landed it twice and Mosley as we all know is a high I.Q. fighter himself. Folks say he didn't land it again, hell he barely landed anything after the second one but can't change the fact those two landed. Joel Judah was a student of the game and Zab Judah was the first to land it. Now count the years between Judah and Mosley and the punch is still there? Listen is Floyd brilliant? Yes! Gifted beyond belief but if you are genuinely a student of the game you know every single fighter has one kryptonite, maybe it's a blindspot, maybe it's a grappler, maybe it's body shots but every fighter has one. Will this kid find it? Who knows..Are there too many chefs in the kitchen? Maybe. We shall see sept 14th.

I disagree. 1st I disagree about Mosley landing 2 shots. He did land 2 but you are trying to make them separate shots. They werent separate to me. He landed the 2nd one because he was still dazed from the 1st shot. Zab landed his shot but thats different. That was just a Southpaw shot.

My thing is this. I think Floyd has genuinely mastered his D against righty's. I dont believe a righty can land a killer blow on him unless he's rusty or just fighting a ****** all out aggressive fight against a huge guy ala Cotto. You wont see that again with his dad back. Even if he's aggressive at times, he's now going to land and get out.

Now when it comes to Southpaws he is 10x better than he was in the past but a Southpaw is still a Southpaw so I think he can be caught. I say it before every fight. There is only 2 ways to beat Floyd right now. You are either going to be a Southpaw that is going to catch him with a blind shot (which will most likely happen within the first 4 rounds because after that he'll adjust and have your timing down) or you are a righty who is just too big for him to deal with. He's dancing in that territory now.

Canelo has a legit chance but I dont think it has to do with him catching Floyd with a Mosley type of blow or anything. He has a chance because he will be 20 pounds bigger and could be so phyically imposing that all Floyd could do is run & pot shot for 12 rounds. No right his size is going to come close at all. It has to be one of these 154-160 pounders who are Southpaw or just too big for him to deal with

[Yaconcha]

nothing new goin on here.

[tlaloc]

Cotto, Jose Luis Castillo & Oscar De La Hoya r great fighters and Caleno is just short on experience compared to them but that's what makes this a great fight because Canelo has the skills and the youth to compensate for that. Canelo is giving up the experience & the catch weight advantage to Mayweather but if he wins it just makes it that much better and if he looses their is no shame as long as he leaves it all in the ring...

[Capaedia]

Best response would be "Im not Trout... Or uh... Rhodes?"


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WBC/WBA junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (42-0-1, 30KOs) is feeling very confident after traveling from city to city with Floyd Mayweather Jr. (44-0, 26KOs), as they have one more stop on their long promotional tour. Canelo is going to face Mayweather Jr. on September 14th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Canelo says he is a better and more dangerous opponent than former champions Robert Guerrero, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto - who Mayweather recently fought and beat.

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Could you imagine if Canelo beat Floyd, I really it to happen to see how the P4P lists would look then. Would Canelo get the proper #1 ranking he deserve or will they still hold it for Andre and say he was the true #1 all along, even though he hasn't fought in ever a year.