Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Andre Ward-Gennady Golovkin Will Take Time

[Motorcity Cobra]

That's not it, Loeffler stood by Gggs Russian interview that Hbo approached them once and he was ready for it, Ward wasn't. Then Hbo told them it would take buildup, probably to meet everyone's purse demands. Buildup wise one guy did his part and more. Other guy may gain some momentum this winter, some 4 years later

When were they ready for it? This article is June 2013. GGG first fight on HBO was Sept 2012. Ward fought Dawson on HBO in Sept 2012. Ward was supposed to fight Pavlik in Jan 2013 but he had to have shoulder surgery because rehabbing the shoulder wasn't working. So are you telling me they offered Ward a fight when they knew he was scheduled to fight Pavlik in Jan? Then came back 5 months later and said they weren't looking to fight Ward? Their timelines seem to be off...

[HeroBando]

When were they ready for it? This article is June 2013. GGG first fight on HBO was Sept 2012. Ward fought Dawson on HBO in Sept 2012. Ward was supposed to fight Pavlik in Jan 2013 but he had to have shoulder surgery because rehabbing the shoulder wasn't working. So are you telling me they offered Ward a fight when they knew he was scheduled to fight Pavlik in Jan? Then came back 5 months later and said they weren't looking to fight Ward? Their timelines seem to be off...

It was probably last 2012, early 2013. Ggg was a distant B side then. Loeffler stood by this, and I didn't see a denial from Ward camp, have you?

At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. You said something about your shoulder or promoter - I'm not interested in the reason, I only heard your "no." But you remember that HBO said then that they would need a long time to build-up the fight. Then what the **** are you talking about excuses?"

[Motorcity Cobra]

It was probably last 2012, early 2013. Ggg was a distant B side then. Loeffler stood by this, and I didn't see a denial from Ward camp, have you?

Ward announced his fight with Pavlik on November 27th 2012 He announced it would be postponed on Dec. 6th. and he would be out most of 2013 due to rehab. The fight with Chad Dawson was announced June 21st 2012 GGG made his HBO debut against Proska which was announced July 17th. There's a very short window of opportunity for a so called fight to be offered. You said early 2013. He was hurt that' why he delayed the Pavlik fight which was supposed to still happen later in the year.

[Jubei]

Russian Interview before was all correct, not the latest UK Interview https://t.co/U74aYpmMwY

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 8, 2015

Now Gennady apparently heard about this Ward interview and didn't take it too kindly. Golovkin replied to AllBoxing.ru, which I'm now translating from Russian to English (because it's worth it) - so please bear with me:

"Hey, Ward, wake up! Why are you talking trash about other people? Speak for yourself. If you're trying to make a name for yourself by mentioning me to build up your own fight, then be a man about it and tell the truth. At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. You said something about your shoulder or promoter - I'm not interested in the reason, I only heard your "no." But you remember that HBO said then that they would need a long time to build-up the fight. Then what the **** are you talking about excuses?"

"If you do provocative attacks, do not even think that Loeffler [Gennady's K2 promoter] will buy into them. You haven't been interesting to anyone for a long time, so he will no longer engage in the promotion of your name. Go and build your own image. Although everyone already knows what you are, and because of this, they do not go to your fights."

"You shouldn't worry about who I'm going to box or have boxed. You, like the rest, were lucky with the "Super Six" tournament because you got your opponents by contract. And who are you fighting now? The fourth-fifth ranked fighters in England...If I say that I'm ready to box any middleweight and ready to rise to 168 for a big fight, then I am responsible for the words. And I have nothing left to discuss with you. As a man, you are dead to me."

[HeroBando]

Ward announced his fight with Pavlik on November 27th 2012 He announced it would be postponed on Dec. 6th. and he would be out most of 2013 due to rehab. The fight with Chad Dawson was announced June 21st 2012 GGG made his HBO debut against Proska which was announced July 17th. There's a very short window of opportunity for a so called fight to be offered. You said early 2013. He was hurt that' why he delayed the Pavlik fight which was supposed to still happen later in the year.

I dunno, maybe ask Loeffler for the exact timeframe. Or tweet that interview to team Ward for some overdue denial. You should be able to find many links, widely available.

[ИATAS]

NATAS is my boy but uhhh....he's kind of getting cooked with this one. It happens to the best of us when we defend our favorite fighters.

The problem is this debate is spread across like four different threads at least and has to do with Jacobs not wanting to fight Golovkin. The poster switches from one excuse to the next and has to use Andre Ward as justification, bumping three year old Ward threads as some sort of proof that he's right Jacobs is perfectly OK with ducking the fight. I mean hey, let's forget they are both middleweights and Jacobs is in a mandatory position to Golovkin and Ward vs Golovkin was two different weight classes. It's cool though, smart business pays off.

[Robbie Barrett]

Golovkin ducked Ward it's so damn obvious. These people arguing he didn't are exactly why people believe his fan base are ****** and mostly ex pac turds.

[HeroBando]

Golovkin ducked Ward it's so damn obvious. These people arguing he didn't are exactly why people believe his fan base are ****** and mostly ex pac turds.

He surrendered his 168 lineal belt after insisting on 161 for a defense vs mando Ward? Wait, they sent a 50/50 on weight and money trial balloon, no bite. That's a very generous deal for a bigger B sider like Ward.e

[Larry the boss]

But but Ward was scared doe

[Robbie Barrett]

He surrendered his 168 lineal belt after insisting on 161 for a defense vs mando Ward? Wait, they sent a 50/50 on weight and money trial balloon, no bite. That's a very generous deal for a bigger B sider like Ward.e

They didn't send anything, that was a suggestion Loeffler made after they had already turned down the fight and said maybe 2017. Golovkin flat out ducked Ward.