Comments Thread For: Mayweather Says a Knockout of Canelo Can Happen

[rocktx]

I'll start off by acknowledging that Floyd is the best pound for pound talent in boxing.

With that being said, it bugs me to see fans who believe Floyd has taken fights were he has a chance of losing. Floyd didn't pick Canelo because it's a risk for reward type of fight. He picked Canelo because he didn't look impressive against Trout. And before Canelo garners any more experience to the point were he becomes a real "threat". Floyd, in a bold move to fool the common public and fans, chose to take the young star out of the equation before he gets any better. So when Canelo reaches his prime, Floyd would be there to say "Oh, I already beat him".

During his career Floyd has been very savvy in rising up to stardom. He learned well from Bob Arum on how to develop as a fighter, and later to become a star without risking too much.

If we take a look at Floyd's career, those who really know it's history, could see Floyd avoided risks (with the exception of Jose Luis Castillo at 135) as he climbed through the P4P ranks.

Taking a look back, since 130lb Floyd avoided real challenges. In the back then loaded 130 division, Floyd was setup to fight the weakest and then aging WBC champion Genaro Hernandez (RIP). Meanwhile a unification match with the likes of a young and dangerous Diego Corrales (IBF), a prime and undefeated Joel Casamayor (WBA) and the back then undefeated ko king Acelino "Popo" Freitas (WBO) were never made. Now, let me make it clear that many would point out that he defended against Diego Corrales. BUT some seem to forget that Corrales was facing "domestic violence" charges and was going to be sent to "prison" after the fight with Floyd. Kind of the right time for Floyd's team to make a move. (Moves like this would become the standard)

After Floyd's tenure at 130lb. Floyd stepped up to the plate and faced the FIRST and LAST real threat on his career. A fighter who he fought on even terms, in their primes and without any advantage. That was against Jose Luis Castillo. Those who remember the fight, know how that end up (CONTROVERSIAL). In a rematch he truly proved his talent and skill and won easily. Unfortunately, that was the last time Floyd would ever take a fight on even terms without an advantage.

After, Floyd became MONEY. Went 140 defeated an over the hill Gatti, never fought Tyszu. Went to 147 fought an over matched Baldomir never faced a prime Cotto, Williams or Margarito. Faced DLH became a household name, took on Hatton on his terms, fooled Juan Manuel Marquez to have a weight advantage, beat and old Cotto and Mosley, and two blown up Jr.Welterweights. Never fought Pac, where a 50/50 purse was reasonable. The drug test, the lions share, the DRAMA were all tantrums to seek an advantage. In the end, the fight was never made and now is almost useless.

Sooo, did Floyd have the talent to beat all of the fighters he never faced or the ones that weren't in their primes or without any advantage? He probably would have... But the clouds of DOUBT would never end and in the end he may have fooled many but there will always be those he can't fool to easy.

BTW, Canelo has a punchers chance. He could really hurt Floyd but that's only if he could land flush and at this stage it's complicated. Point is Canelo is not ready to face Floyd. He may win some rounds ala Cotto and Guerrero, could probably make it interesting and to a certain point seem like he could win but Floyd will adjust and take it home to another UD.

Man that was a heck of a rant. I see the points you are making about the fighters Floyd has picked, but...

In the end do you really think Floyd would have lost to any of those fighters?

Sure they may have been a little more risk than the fighters he chose, but you could pick a handful of fights for anyone and say, "hey they could have fought someone better instead of who they chose" . Remember fights getting made isn't completely up to the fighter. There could be hundreds of reasons those fights didn't get made back then. Not just Floyd saying, "Oh he's too big a risk, I dont wanna fight him"

[king Ketchel]

I'll start off by acknowledging that Floyd is the best pound for pound talent in boxing.

With that being said, it bugs me to see fans who believe Floyd has taken fights were he has a chance of losing. Floyd didn't pick Canelo because it's a risk for reward type of fight. He picked Canelo because he didn't look impressive against Trout. And before Canelo garners any more experience to the point were he becomes a real "threat". Floyd, in a bold move to fool the common public and fans, chose to take the young star out of the equation before he gets any better. So when Canelo reaches his prime, Floyd would be there to say "Oh, I already beat him".

During his career Floyd has been very savvy in rising up to stardom. He learned well from Bob Arum on how to develop as a fighter, and later to become a star without risking too much.

If we take a look at Floyd's career, those who really know it's history, could see Floyd avoided risks (with the exception of Jose Luis Castillo at 135) as he climbed through the P4P ranks.

Taking a look back, since 130lb Floyd avoided real challenges. In the back then loaded 130 division, Floyd was setup to fight the weakest and then aging WBC champion Genaro Hernandez (RIP). Meanwhile a unification match with the likes of a young and dangerous Diego Corrales (IBF), a prime and undefeated Joel Casamayor (WBA) and the back then undefeated ko king Acelino "Popo" Freitas (WBO) were never made. Now, let me make it clear that many would point out that he defended against Diego Corrales. BUT some seem to forget that Corrales was facing "domestic violence" charges and was going to be sent to "prison" after the fight with Floyd. Kind of the right time for Floyd's team to make a move. (Moves like this would become the standard)

After Floyd's tenure at 130lb. Floyd stepped up to the plate and faced the FIRST and LAST real threat on his career. A fighter who he fought on even terms, in their primes and without any advantage. That was against Jose Luis Castillo. Those who remember the fight, know how that end up (CONTROVERSIAL). In a rematch he truly proved his talent and skill and won easily. Unfortunately, that was the last time Floyd would ever take a fight on even terms without an advantage.

After, Floyd became MONEY. Went 140 defeated an over the hill Gatti, never fought Tyszu. Went to 147 fought an over matched Baldomir never faced a prime Cotto, Williams or Margarito. Faced DLH became a household name, took on Hatton on his terms, fooled Juan Manuel Marquez to have a weight advantage, beat and old Cotto and Mosley, and two blown up Jr.Welterweights. Never fought Pac, where a 50/50 purse was reasonable. The drug test, the lions share, the DRAMA were all tantrums to seek an advantage. In the end, the fight was never made and now is almost useless.

Sooo, did Floyd have the talent to beat all of the fighters he never faced or the ones that weren't in their primes or without any advantage? He probably would have... But the clouds of DOUBT would never end and in the end he may have fooled many but there will always be those he can't fool to easy.

BTW, Canelo has a punchers chance. He could really hurt Floyd but that's only if he could land flush and at this stage it's complicated. Point is Canelo is not ready to face Floyd. He may win some rounds ala Cotto and Guerrero, could probably make it interesting and to a certain point seem like he could win but Floyd will adjust and take it home to another UD.

and robinson didn't fight burley or a guy like marshall but he can beat up lamotta 5 times

you have no idea how to put things into context. whatd you do look at boxrec rankings and just rattle off names that mayweather didn't fight? floyd beat guys better than freitas and casamayor anyways.

tzyu was never ever an option he was with showtime boxing and pbf was with hbo

[mathed]

Good luck with that Floyd, you are gonna need it.

[QballLobo]

Not a chance. He couldn't KO a blown up lightweight in Marquez. He couldn't KO Ortiz without a sucker punch. He couldn't finish Guerrero despite being clearly a class ahead. Floyd hasn't had a legit KO since Hatton, and that doesn't look that impressive in light of what Pacquiao did to him.
Not saying he won't win, but there is a %0.00 of a KO for Floyd.

[CharlieRecord07]

It happened to Ortiz and Hatton, just to name a few.

...and don't forget Josie Harris, it happened to her too.

[Gary Coleman]

Floyd's brittle hands are what prevent him from going for the KO more often. It's like 'fans' just started watching Floyd from 2007 on.

[nathan_nall]

This is the most dangerous fight he's ever been in. May is showing his age. It's just that Floyd in his mid 30's is still better than everyone else at any age, so I give him the edge. But if there is a KO in this fight, that means that Canelo has won. Floyd hasn't had a stoppage since Moses came down from the holy mount.

[jcamarena79]

Last time he knocked a guy out was 2007 then put jmm on his a** in 2009 an anybody who thinks ortiz got cheated is a f**kin crybaby he got what he deserved for that headbutt he hit floyd an admitted to it!!!!!
I can see floyd puttin canelo down im not sure about out but down f**k ya canelo is a pressure fighter an he will take risks plus nobody knows how good his chin is yet u all saw khan beatin ppl till he finally got tagged an exposed so is it doable hell ya!!!!!

come on man !! you cant be comparing Canelo to the crystal chin of Kahn....come on now !!

[Flash13]

Floyd's just trying to sell the fight... I don't even think he believes he could knock out canelo honestly... No way it's going to be a wide ud with a lot of holding and boring parts... I'm guessing boo's start in under 6 rounds.

[iloveboxing2]

Floyd Floyd Floyd...If you can't KO JMM, there's no way you are going to KO Canelo, by UD, yes! but I also see Canelo winning by TKO. Floyd sure is the smartest boxer but he sure is one the dumbest when talking.