Comments Thread For: Fury Ready To Ink Contract, Puts Pressure on Haye

[Mike Haynes]

I see a bunch of babbling on Fury's side.....but none of it says that they will accept the 50/50 split that David Haye suggested. PLUS they stated they are ready to move on if not signed by a specific date.

Fury is not serious about the fight.

[EvilGenius]

You Will sign it with 80% cut? **** OFF YOU *******

[andrewa1]

Read the definition of that duck before you comment please.

I don't comment much in here, but I have to say, while I completely disagree with your evaluation of the Klitschko's, your evaluation of this HW era in general, and to a lesser extent your evaluation of Haye, you generally give well reasoned and logically consistent arguments. I'd have to call you the winner on most of the arguments in this thread, re: Haye's choice of opponents etc.

However, Fury's chances are underestimated for this fight. Haye should be the favorite, yes, but I won't be at all surprised if Fury fights fairly disciplined, avoids the overhand right, and uses the size that Haye has always struggled with to break down and ko Haye. If that happens, I'll be very interested in your reaction at that stage. Will you go immediately to "he's going to beat Wlad" or will you delegitimize the victory to prepare for the likelihood that he then gets beat by WK? Personally, on my side, I'm open to reevaluation of Haye if he beats Fury. if Haye wins, he will go up dramatically in my estimation. I have him at a very weak and debatable #3 right now, but I've never believed he warrants another match with a K at this point and I believe several other top 10 HW's would beat him (weak # 3 because while I don't think he'd beat all the top 10's below the K's, he'd beat more of them then the one's who would beat him). If he wins, I'll make him a strong #3, and will definitely allow that he has earned another title shot.

Of course, this is all assuming the fight gets made. Based on his tweets, Fury does appear to be pricing himself out, which is disappointing and absurd, its probably as much or more than he'd get for a title shot, with lesser risk. Props to Haye, who, per above, I dislike and believe somewhat overrated, for being willing to go to 50/50 with a lesser draw to get an intriguing fight made.

[LoadedWraps]

WAR Fury!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bodyshot3]

Haye and Booth must have fallen off their Penthouse designer chairs and spilt Bollinger, Truffles and Caviar everyhere when Tyson asked for that 80:20 deal...

[ddangerous]

C'mon, c'mon, c'mon. I wanna see this fight come off already. Same with Garcia/Matthysse.

[yoz]

The fight is signed, already.

This is all BS to build it up.

[Hayehammer]

Fury has beaten Chisora and Cunningham. People are going to be in for a big shock. This won't be anywhere near as easy for Haye as people think. Fury might even pull off an upset.

I agree! fury is a good fight! This will be not an easy fight for both!

[yoz]

I agree! fury is a good fight! This will be not an easy fight for both!

LOL. Sure thing, bro!

[LacedUp]

I don't comment much in here, but I have to say, while I completely disagree with your evaluation of the Klitschko's, your evaluation of this HW era in general, and to a lesser extent your evaluation of Haye, you generally give well reasoned and logically consistent arguments. I'd have to call you the winner on most of the arguments in this thread, re: Haye's choice of opponents etc.

However, Fury's chances are underestimated for this fight. Haye should be the favorite, yes, but I won't be at all surprised if Fury fights fairly disciplined, avoids the overhand right, and uses the size that Haye has always struggled with to break down and ko Haye. If that happens, I'll be very interested in your reaction at that stage. Will you go immediately to "he's going to beat Wlad" or will you delegitimize the victory to prepare for the likelihood that he then gets beat by WK? Personally, on my side, I'm open to reevaluation of Haye if he beats Fury. if Haye wins, he will go up dramatically in my estimation. I have him at a very weak and debatable #3 right now, but I've never believed he warrants another match with a K at this point and I believe several other top 10 HW's would beat him (weak # 3 because while I don't think he'd beat all the top 10's below the K's, he'd beat more of them then the one's who would beat him). If he wins, I'll make him a strong #3, and will definitely allow that he has earned another title shot.

Of course, this is all assuming the fight gets made. Based on his tweets, Fury does appear to be pricing himself out, which is disappointing and absurd, its probably as much or more than he'd get for a title shot, with lesser risk. Props to Haye, who, per above, I dislike and believe somewhat overrated, for being willing to go to 50/50 with a lesser draw to get an intriguing fight made.

Thanks for the kind words, and that's fair enough - each man to his own. I you like what you see from the Klitschkos then all the power to you. I don't dislike either one really, I just don't find them very interesting. It's their fans that do it for me. In fact, both of them seem like cool guys.

To your point, I don't envisage this being a particularly hard fight for Haye. I can't see Fury handle an aggressive Haye, which is the one I'm fully expecting to come on the night. The overhand right is not really a punch Haye throws that much. Hasn't really thrown it since Mormeck if I remember correctly. I expect his jab-straight right to be the key here. Fury's lack of defense and poor pawing jab won't be enough to stop Haye like Wlad's did for example.

I expect Haye to finish him inside 5 rounds. With regards to Wlad, I really can't see Haye beating him unless he goes down hill over the next couple of fights. He's too good, too big, too strong. But there's no shame in that, Wlad is two weight classes above Haye. He tried once and failed obviously, but I'm not even sure that the public wants to see it again. I'm sure Wlad will offer Haye a rematch after a couple of wins though.

Vitali is a whole other story altogether though. At this stage in his career, I think Haye takes him tbh. He hasn't looked good since the Adamek fight I think. We couldn't judge him off the Solis fight. But he doesn't want it for whatever reason. And all the power to him.